Just want to know how much would i have to invest and also what mods are needed to run 14's? Just trying to hit a 14.9 at least or better...Any 3rd gen Z24 Gurus out there? Just got the car and want to play with it a lil' bit....want to be able to keep up with/beat stock mustangs and Civic Si's/swapped civics.....Also do these 2.4's respond well to mods?...any help would be greatly appreciated.......
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intake/header/exhaust will help, but it takes some good drivin to do that. there's a cam swap you can do fairly cheap that'll help quite a bit....but if you wanna just do it quick and easy....toss a 75 shot of nitrous on there, and go all day. dry will work, but wet is a little safer. my buddy clay did 10-12 bottles of 75 dry and never blew anything up. just make sure you run premium gas and you should do just fine...maybe some 2 stage colder plugs.
good dry kit might run ya 300-450 depending where you get it.
good wet kit can be had like 550 I think
difference is a wet kit adds more fuel besides the nitrous so you don't lean out and detonate....detonation will cause your motor to blow....but like I said, my buddy did it and ran the track and street all the time and didn't hurt a thing
Drop in an ECOTEC with your 5spd then do the intake header and exhaust and you'll be in the 14's easy. Go check my cars specs and then the time slip I have posted. Thats all you need. If you spray your ECO your looking at high 13's.
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jackalope... you need some driving skills as well to get into the 14's with just your mods
1989 Pontiac Sunbird GT - LT3
Well I dont want to go that radical and change the motor, I kinda like the torqy lil 2.4...I dont wanna spray cause its my daily driver, but I might, but wat all motor mods will get me there? I was gonna do intake, timing, header, underdrive pulley, light flywheel/clutch.....I'm hearing A lot about the "HO" swap...whats that? Is it relatively easy to do? What do these cars run stock anyway? Can they beat stock Si's?
Jackalope wrote:Drop in an ECOTEC with your 5spd then do the intake header and exhaust and you'll be in the 14's easy. Go check my cars specs and then the time slip I have posted. Thats all you need. If you spray your ECO your looking at high 13's.
What a way to blow cash.......
. Seriously with the money spent on a swap he could be doing a HELL of a lot better. Eco's are not from the hand of God here buddy..
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I give up...
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Bobby Booshay wrote:What do these cars run stock anyway? Can they beat stock Si's?
they run mid-high 15's stock. and no
Like DropTopPaul said, Intake and full exhaust. Jackalope says his car hauls ass with his 2.5" piping. Though most people go 2.25" pipe. The underdrive pulley won't help you a whole heck of a lot I don't think. I'm not an expert on that, so I won't pretend to be. Not sure about the timing. Start thinking about a short throw shifter. The faster the driver, the faster the car.
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Does anyone know of any companies that specialize in the 2.4 motor? Cause down here there is no aftermarket support of these cars....mostly Honda vendors.....Any of you guys know any sites that i could go to? Any recommendations?
Carcustoms has parts for the 2.4. couple others. just have to lok around
my best run to date is 14.6 i have intake, engine mounts, header, full exhaust, and a 75 shot on an auto. and this is my daily driver
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that car is still to this day daily driven....don't be a retard with nitrous and you won't hurt a thing....turbos and superchargers are just as dangerous in the hands of a retard. spray 55 shot all day you won't even have to put premium in, although I'd recommend it just for added hp and insurance. 75 shot has been done 1000's of times....very few problems. usually if someone loses a motor its because they didn't listen to a bit of advice I just gave
Jbodyperformance.com has a good selection of parts I believe..
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Thanks, I might have to look into that nitrous.whats the best kit?...Is it plug and play or do I have to retard the timing somehow?...Just ordered a header, intake, mounts, and high flow cat...dont want exhaust cause i want it a sleeper car, and plus the cops are swarming out here!!!
Guys chill! Sarcasm eludes you doesn't it ? Damn!
89Turbo, Thanks for the compliment man
Chris has a good idea or just grab all the bolt ons you can find and slap in a couple new cams. Get some practice and you should be there.
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There is a guy on hear selling performance heads...shaved .020, ported/polished, gasket matched, w/vlave job...he wants 450 shipped for each head...just wanted to know if any of you guys know how good these heads are and is it worth the 450? Also what are the gains from this head?
450 is awfully cheap....link us to it and maybe someone here can vouch for him, most heads go for far more then that...like in the 1200 range. Sounds fishy having just hearing that. NX and NOS make good wet kits....although I've never heard of anyone havin much trouble with zex either. Install is fairly simple, not too complicated, and it comes with instructions. The GM supercharger is a nice way to go about it, it'll get you there for the most part. nitrous is faster and cheaper though IMO...and it doesn't make you run premium all the time...only when you're gonna spray. cheaper to use as a daily driver
His add was in the for sale section....and his AIM=themainphrame.....lmk if you guys know of his work......
Look YOu guys dont go putting any drams in this mans head everyone knows the gm supercharger kit is for 2000+ z24 right? this man has 98 , Yes i have a 96 and believe me if it were four years newer i would be boosted and on the bottl3!!!!!!
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I'm hearing A lot about the "HO" swap...whats that? Is it relatively easy to do? What do these cars run stock anyway? Can they beat stock Si's?
its "relatively" easy to do..but im no so sure you want to jump into a project like that yet(maybe im wrong) ..and yes,they can beat Si's ...but in YOUR car it would involve changing the motor and all the wiring in the engine bay including the pcm...
what i suggest is getting the HO intake manifold and throttle body..its a common mod for 2.4s and seems to give a good gain...
other than that just listen to these guys,exhaust,MOUNTS, MAYbe cams,practice your shifting...
i went to the drag races at nyperville in canada and there was a cavalier z24 that was running 14's and all it had was nos
He may have a 98, but the gm charger kit can still be put on it. Just needs a new starter and some other stuff. There is a sticky about it in the boost forum.
i dont know anything bout nos except i would like it but cant affort it right now. i have a 99 sunfire gt. its an automatic and with just aem intake i was gettin 16.0. i added an underdrive pulley (dont know if it will help) and headers. the drag strip here just opened last weekend so i havnt had a chance to run since i added them, but i will let you know.
never fast enough.
I have a 98 and the GM SC, so yea its possible, you need the 2K+ starter, aftermarket FMU, AFPR, 320 CC injectors and your pretty much set.
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Admiral Jedi wrote:Bobby Booshay wrote:What do these cars run stock anyway? Can they beat stock Si's?
they run mid-high 15's stock. and no
I don't know if Cavs are different than Sunfires for any reason, but my fiance's manual '01 GT ran a 15.27 with an intake & upper/lower motor mounts. Cheap mods. He doesn't race too often, but he ran a 15.4 completely stock & 15.3 with just the intake.
If it were me trying to reach a 14 knowing that, I'd probably go for a lightweight hood & trunk as well as probably taking out some of the interior for the day. I say that because I have a noticable difference going from my stock hood to the fiberglass one. Heck, taking out my sub box dropped .5 off of my time. Make sure you take out anything extra including the spare & jack, I don't know what else you might have in there since your registry isn't filled out
Adjusting the tires is important too, remember to put air into the back tires.
If an '98 Z can run the same, I'd say practice & research into where to put the right stuff is the best thing to do. It's sad that I've seen so many modded cars that just go slower, so I think research is key so you don't do anything counter productive like 3" exhaust.
