'99 2.2L motor. I have the 1 mounting bolt removed and tried removing it from the motor by wiggling it and such and it simply does not budge. Any ideas as to how this is removed safely without it breaking off flush with the motor?



J

Time, patience, and keep wiggling.

They are a bitch to get out. Although I would be prepared. No matter how careful you are there is a HIGH probability that you'll break it off. So if you feel that you can't get it off without breaking it, you might just wanna drop the oil pan and push it out from the inside.

Oh no! Not good news BUT I decided to take it to the dealer anyhow as its only 0.7 booktime for them to do it and they have to use the Tech 1 to re-calibrate the new sensor anyways I was told?



J

sounds like a crock of @!#$ to me...

Well I confirmed what they said with Alldata and its in there so they must know what they are talking about. Now whether or not you can install the sensor without doing the re-calibration and not have NO issues related to misfires etc is another story...



J

Hey, you DO NOT have to get it recalibrated to work correctly... That is not true, I'ts just another way for the dealer to nickel and dime people to death. Believe me I do these every other day at my shop.

-Steve-

No you don't have to do it done. But a lot of cars will pop the engine light telling you that it needs the CASE learn. After it's done, it'll be more likely to pick up a misfire event, or less likely to say there's a misfire when there's not. I'm sure the .7hours figures in the relearn.

SHOoff (Tuner Bash Beer God) wrote: I'm sure the .7hours figures in the relearn.

Oops, its actually 0.9 hours



J

i used a flat head screw driver VERY VERY carefully to start prying it out just a bit then i could pull it out by hand and installed new one like nothing.

oh and btw i unplugged my battery while i did it and after install my check engine light went out and no problems since.

Does this sensor mess with performance at all? Im throwing the code in my z24.

caso60 wrote:Does this sensor mess with performance at all? Im throwing the code in my z24.

YEs this is the same sensor that tells you your #3 rod has met your firewall and or radiator.

This sensor triggers the ignition...without it usually the car wont run well at all...I would bet its a wiring problem if you have'nt had any major issues thus far.



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards

had one go bad in my wifes fire once. i ended up intentionally breaking it off and pushing it in as far as i could (it hits the crank so it doesnt fall in) then took some medium sanpaper and carefully rubbed the inside of the cylinder it fits into, lubed her all up and the old one lid right out. lubed up the new sensor and shid it right in.

Ryan Thompson wrote:had one go bad in my wifes fire once. i ended up intentionally breaking it off and pushing it in as far as i could (it hits the crank so it doesnt fall in) then took some medium sanpaper and carefully rubbed the inside of the cylinder it fits into, lubed her all up and the old one lid right out. lubed up the new sensor and shid it right in.

^^^ingenuity you dont see in kids these days^^^

not that im old or anything....



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards

Ryan Thompson wrote:had one go bad in my wifes fire once. i ended up intentionally breaking it off and pushing it in as far as i could (it hits the crank so it doesnt fall in) then took some medium sanpaper and carefully rubbed the inside of the cylinder it fits into, lubed her all up and the old one lid right out. lubed up the new sensor and shid it right in.

Can anyone confirm that this is indeed the case with a '99 2200? I would hate to have the sensor fall right in! This could be the answer I have been looking for! Hehe, not to mention I get to lube up my wife's car



J

Z Styling wrote:

Ryan Thompson wrote:had one go bad in my wifes fire once. i ended up intentionally breaking it off and pushing it in as far as i could (it hits the crank so it doesnt fall in) then took some medium sanpaper and carefully rubbed the inside of the cylinder it fits into, lubed her all up and the old one lid right out. lubed up the new sensor and shid it right in.

Can anyone confirm that this is indeed the case with a '99 2200? I would hate to have the sensor fall right in! This could be the answer I have been looking for! Hehe, not to mention I get to lube up my wife's car

It holds true for all 2.2l with electronic ignition.



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards

Alex Richards wrote:It holds true for all 2.2l with electronic ignition.

Good to know, sounds easier than dropping the oil pan to push it out! I am assuming that you just use needle nose pliers to grab the sensor once pushed it to remove it? I am under the assumption the old sensor was snapped off before it was pushed it though, as it would make sense to at least give it a fighting attempt to wiggle it out first



J