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Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Friday, June 26, 2009 6:46 PM
My son has a 2000 Cav Z24 - Gotta love this car, runs like a champ. When he bought the car the plastic piece between the top dash and windshield, about 2 - 3" wide is broken in a few places and the center section of the trim is just missing. What the heck do you call this piece - where do you find one and most importantly, how hard is it to replace??

I have read the instructions how to remove the instrument panel and don't see that being a problem but this is right on top and the whole dash appears it will need to be removed to replace this thinkgy-ma-bob.

Please let me know if you have any answers to these questions. Thanks a bunch!

Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Friday, June 26, 2009 6:58 PM
That's the top visible portion of the dash frame. Sorry to tell you, but to replace it, you have to pull a ton of stuff out. There are plastic covers available, though, search the exterior or photos & medai forums for "dash crack cover" or other permutations of the phrase, and you should be able to come up with the thread they are listed in. IIRC, they just pop into place, and they're hard to tell apart from the original piece.





Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:57 AM
join the club thats a cavalier thing

a cracked cavalier dash and cavalier go together like spagetti and meatballs

your best bet is to find a 00-05 cavalier dash from the wrecker thats not cracked and replace it but when doing so don't put that screw back in where the other 1 cracked just put a small piece of foam (kind with adesive on the back side of it) to prevent it from making noises

on the sunfire that piece is replaceable (but also never cracks) but on the cavalier its part of the lower dash assembly



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:22 AM
If mine ever cracks I'd probably just do the cover.. its expensive but its less work then finding a entire dash assembly to remove from a junker and swapping urs out.. unless ofcourse the car is already being worked on and tore down then its not really a issue..
http://www.coverlaymfg.com/index.php?crn=207&rn=498&action=show_detail

My 03 is still fine.. for some reason I dont think I've seen a 03+ with this dash crack.. but i've never looked for them either..



Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:24 AM
As stated, that's basically part the whole (large) dash. To change is not as easy as you think. I ended up vinyling over mine with some similar colored vinyl.



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Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:41 AM
What's odd is that I've had two 95's, and neither of them cracked. I'm reinforcing mine before it goes back in just as a precautionary measure, but I thought it's odd that mine has still not cracked, and it's 15 years old. I wonder if GM changed the plastic composition at some point in the mid 90's.





Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:10 AM
Yep, that's what I will have to do, cover it up using a cap. The suggestion to cover w/ vinyl is a good one, but mine cracked in two places at first causing a somewhat 7" middle piece that has over the next two years broken down to smaller pieces and now is a gap... the cap will cover no problem.

Hey Quicklilcav, I may have an answer to your question about 15 year older parts holding up better - Over the years since sometime in the late 60's the EPA has been investigating major pollution issues, one being the plastics and another big one the paint industry. GM contracts out to smaller shops and get moulded parts and paints from them. Over the years, time to time these smaller shops would be somewhat "bullied" into testing and adjusting their recipies to produce formed product and paints. Have you ever seen a white 1990-1992 Chevy/GMC truck (and other vehilcles) that had their original paint on the hood? Almost everyone right down to primer. The EPA, being the protector of the enviornment, forced chemical makeup chenges and the GM counter-parts didn't get it right the first time. Yes ozone and acid rain did most the damage but the paint wasn't strong enogh to withstand the elements. Srange named chemicals like Xylene (sounds like zylene) mostly used for drying purposes were replaced by weaker chemicals to meet VOC (Volatile organic compounds) requirements. I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS AREA - All I know is what I read in papers many years ago and put their 2 plus my 2 togeather from experience. Years ago before CAD, I was a design drafter who drew ink on vellum. The simple bottles of ink used to draw lines of an electrical plan would take hours to dry after the ink manufacturer in Germany changed their formula for inks sold in the USA! We suffered nearly six months until we found a way to get the product direct from Germany - remeber, we did not have the Internet Community of today in 1989.

If this stray conversation is not allowed, please forgive my ignorance as I am somewhat a newbie to forums.

THANK-YOU so much to all for the GREAT suggestions to my problem; you are all MUCH apprecitaed.
Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:27 PM
Pete McGrath wrote:Have you ever seen a white 1990-1992 Chevy/GMC truck (and other vehilcles) that had their original paint on the hood? Almost everyone right down to primer. The EPA, being the protector of the enviornment, forced chemical makeup chenges and the GM counter-parts didn't get it right the first time. Yes ozone and acid rain did most the damage but the paint wasn't strong enogh to withstand the elements. Srange named chemicals like Xylene (sounds like zylene) mostly used for drying purposes were replaced by weaker chemicals to meet VOC (Volatile organic compounds) requirements.

Yep, that and the 87 Dupont primer used mostly on Ford vehicles. Any truck that came back for peeling paint was sanded down to the metal and completely done over. Gotta love beta testing on production vehicles. LOL.





Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:45 PM
Yeah they have to have changed the plastics or somthing...my 01 z and my dads 05 base model both have cracked dashes however my 96 does not. I havnt seen too many 95 or 96 dashes that are cracked.



Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:50 AM
my 96 isnt cracked on my sunchicken or cav (both 96)



Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:30 AM
sunfires don't crack just cavaliers if a sunfire cracks its been in hte sun say razona dessert for too long



JBO since July 30, 2001

Re: Need to know what this part is called - and how to replace
Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:26 AM
I guess I should clarify.... The car was bought for my son as his primary git' along - So he'll leave my Colorado Crew cab parked.

When we bought the car it was from a retired Army dude who kept his VW Passat in the garage while the Cav sat in the sun on his driveway in Mesa, AZ (about 30 miles from Phoenix). He did have the windows tinted and a silver reflective shade screen in the front window. The screen was a bit too short and did not cover the cap - it's the only piece that cracked - the top of dash and whole interior is is super fine, near perfect condition. He really kept up this car, even the paint job is in excellent condition and you should see the engine compartment - CLEAN. Anyways... when we bought the car he told us "oh it's just a piece that "pops" out; you can buy a replacement and pop it right in there.... I should have asked "Instaed of dropping the price of the car 200 bucks; if it's that easy, why didn't you "pop" it right in there?"

I will be more shrewd on things like this in the future; experience is the best teacher.

BTW - Why do so many retired military have Cavs anyway? Now that we own a Cav, we see them on the road ALL the time. Quite a few have the retired sticker usually on the lower left rear windshield in Phoenix and Tucson.
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