Ok I have a 95 sunfire 2.2 that the timing chain and gear broke on. It had a bit of a rattle before, and I was told this was due to lifter(maybe wrong I dunno).I also dont know if anything is bent when it broke. Its got high miles also. Anyway a friend of mine just wrecked his 99 sunfire with a 2.2 in it. I have a 2.2 in the 95. I was wondering if I could swap everything from the 99 the engine and the tranny to the 95? Or would this cause way to many problems to mess with? The 99 sunfire has a bent frame and the drives side is all messed up. So I am getting the 99 for a good price, but before I commit I want to know how much headache this will cause or if I should bother with it. Since I basicly have everything from the 99 but a drivers door. Thanks

if the timing chain snapped/broke on the 95, chances are from what i have read on here in the past that chances are good you probably bent if not destroyed some valves don't know if yours is an ohv engine or interference if it is interference engine the engine is probably blown but could be wrong.

get the harness and trans from the 99 and the swap is a lot easier the engine will bolt to the trans but the car being obd 1 and the engine being obd2 you would have to essentially change everything to obd 2 also in 98 they went with the different 2.2 ohv with the throttle body on the back so you would have to swap a few other things for that engine to work properly

Bill wrote:if the timing chain snapped/broke on the 95, chances are from what i have read on here in the past that chances are good you probably bent if not destroyed some valves don't know if yours is an ohv engine or interference if it is interference engine the engine is probably blown but could be wrong.

How so? The 2.2 OHV isn't an interference engine. I say just set it back in time with a new chain and start the car.

With the swap you can switch everything over. You might have to swap a little more than the engine and wiring harness though, otherwise it might give you @!#$ about starting.

What exactly is "high" mileage?





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So it is possible. i do have the whole car to pull parts from if i need too. just was wanting to make sure. before hand. i was told that ya id probaly have to hcange the computer and stuff like that but i couldnt find any more info.

any one know what all would need swapped?

the 95 has 200k+ on it. As far as the wiring. i had planned that id have to swap computers. but does the whole harnes come out of the 99 so i can drop it in the 95? just looking to see if anyone would have any other pointers and ideas. and yes i planned on putting the 99 engine and trans in the 95.

Yes the whole wiring harness has to come out of the 99 and it should just be able to bolt in to your cavalier where you remove the existing wires. There may be some complications you run into with swapping the harness from the sunfire to cavalier but im pretty sure there very minimal. Also you would have to possibly change the trans for your lock up torque converter to work with the newer wiring harness im not positive though. But yes the pcm will have to be swapped, along with all the under the hood sensors and possibly a few trans sensors, hope the swap goes together well would like to see it.

Ok I was planning on leaving the trans from the 99 on the engine and putting it in the 95 sunfire. I hope it all gose well. I have been told by a few people it wouldnt work, but after reading here and seeing what all has been and could be done i think it will work. I just hope it works right. I guess the plus side is getting the wrecked car for cheap. Just hope the harnes moves over easy from the 99 sunfire to the 95 sunfire with no problems. Worst that I could have is probably a eninge light on and not being able to get engine check codes frm the obd1 plug since it is an obd 2?

You've got to pretty much swap everything electrical over. FYI, even your fuel level sending unit will be different. The 95 is OBD I, and the 99 is OBD II. This means that your 95 car is going to be missing some of the info that the 99 computer is looking for, and as mentioned, may give you a hard time starting. I would swap the entire dash harness, and engine harness. You also need to swap the gauge cluster, because it will have the anti-theft component in it.

That's what i was saying shooff, i didn't know if the engine he had in his 95 was an ohv or not but since it is a 2200 ohv and not an interference engine then yeah he could probably do exactly what you suggested and go on from there.

Dang wish the frame wasnt bent on the 99 lol. seems like a lot of work to switch it all over. but heck im not sure which to do. i am going to get the 99 for 250. has good tires on it still and runs good.

mine before it died has a bad rattle. i was told it was the lifters. so i didnt know if it would be worth it to put the timing chain on it just to find somethng else was wrong.

next question may sound dumb ass hell though, would it be possible to completely remove the 99 shell and put the 95 on it after the frame is fixed. or is this a no? lol yes you can laugh just looking to see here.

there is no "shell" to remove.



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Someone wanted to know if i could just swap the heads off the 95 to the 99 so i wouldnt have to change any electrical?

You could swap the subframe in the front. I'm pretty sure all the cavaliers are the same from 95+ suspension and subframe wise. You cant just change the head 2.2 1995-1997 and 2200 1998+ are different. Theres a post somewhere on what can be swapped between the 2 but I know the head is not a direct swap. The easiest thing to do would be to find another 1995 2.2 and swap it in, maybe keep the 99 for a project car.

Bill wrote:That's what i was saying shooff, i didn't know if the engine he had in his 95 was an ohv or not but since it is a 2200 ohv and not an interference engine then yeah he could probably do exactly what you suggested and go on from there.

But, it's not a 2200 OHV. That would be 98 or newer.

I still say to the OP, just to replace the timing set and set her back in. There's a lot more work than just plugging it in that's gonna have to happen to get it running.





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SHOoff wrote:

Bill wrote:if the timing chain snapped/broke on the 95, chances are from what i have read on here in the past that chances are good you probably bent if not destroyed some valves don't know if yours is an ohv engine or interference if it is interference engine the engine is probably blown but could be wrong.

How so? The 2.2 OHV isn't an interference engine. I say just set it back in time with a new chain and start the car.

With the swap you can switch everything over. You might have to swap a little more than the engine and wiring harness though, otherwise it might give you @!#$ about starting.

What exactly is "high" mileage?

then what engine is it shooff, must just be a regular 2.2 or a 2.3 i think those were around then weren't they but it sounds like it was just a regular 2.2.

It's the 2.2 OHV. A stroked out version of the 2.0 OHV. In 98 the engine got some changes and became the 2200 OHV. The 2200 is the same, but at the same time different than the 2.2 OHV.

92-97 = 2.2 OHV
98+ = 2200





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Well can you put a 2200 ohv in a 97 with a 2.2 ohv????

Ok shooff, so in his case then it was essentially the 2.2 ohv before it became the 2200 ohv.

Bill, why don't you go back to the Newbies forum. All you do is cause MORE confusion for everyone else around here.

@!#$!

No Lenko, what i was doing was trying to clarify if that was in fact what shooff meant it's a simple yes or no.

Bill wrote:it's a simple yes or no.

NOTHING is simple when it comes to you Bill.

I work with a guy just like you... he knows nothing, but he loves to hear himself talk. He won't shut up for even a few minutes. If you and him got together, I think it would be wonderful.

John Lenko wrote:

Bill wrote:it's a simple yes or no.

NOTHING is simple when it comes to you Bill.

I work with a guy just like you... he knows nothing, but he loves to hear himself talk. He won't shut up for even a few minutes. If you and him got together, I think it would be wonderful.

you must love people like that your still working there.

Quick question. What year would the 2200 from the 99 plug and play swap?

In a 1998-2002 cavalier/sunfire that had the 2200 in it