I've been looking at In dash Navigation units for a while now and am Trying to find the best unit for my needs, I want something that I can use for a while without haveing to buy a new one every year. I have a Bluetooth Phone and would like to integrate it, I have XM radio services and would like to use it (and maybe there traffic too) I want to have a back up camera. I would like it to be hard drive based, with a recording function for music...I have MS at home and wouldn't mind being able to use them, but it;s not required....Mostly, NAV, DVD, XM, BlueTooth, Back up Cam.

I've found The Eclipse AVN5495, which is what I was planning, but they don't have Bluetooth yet or XM.

And Now that the Pioneer AVIC-Z1 is out it fits all my requirements (except the memory stick)
Does anyone have any information (hands on) on these units?

is there any other options out there? I want a Double DIn unit too, but could do something else....I've also been considering going with a Car PC.....

Thanks for any help


Everything LOUDER than everything else!!

The eclipse is nice. I'd say go with the Pioneer, though. they seem to have everything right with the new unit. pretty sure they're a little more experienced with those types of units, also.

lot's of info about the Avic-Z1




I'm planning on getting this unit (along with the Bluetooth adapter, XM/NavTraffic system, and iPod controller) in the fall sometime. The retail on them is $2200, but you can find them on eBay for $1700, and there are even a few that will go for $1500. They are the best all-in-one system out there right now.