Eventually I will be upgrading my sound system and was thinking a full Alpine type-r system. However, after talking to Jeffrey (lanman31337) he convinced me to seriously think about the brand Lanzar. I can get better, competition stuff for about the same price for what I can the Alpines (around $1,500 total). Also let me know if I should use any sound deadenor, or is it overrated? I was just wanting some comments and opinions on Lanzar...
Here is my proposed setup:
CD Deck: Alpine CDA-9856 (already installed)
Subs: (2) 12" Lanzar OPTI1232D
Amp: Lanzar OPTI2000D
Component Set: Lanzar OPTI6.1
4x6 to 6.5 Speaker conversion kit
Rear 6x9: Lanzar OPTI692
Amp (power speakers): MXA412
12" Dual Square Slot Ported Box (14"H X 17"D X 32"W)
Optima yellow top battery under the hood
Let me know if you have had any experience with any Lanzar products
They seem insanely good for the price, but their RMS is 3/4 or more of what their max rating is. The guy at MJ audio here said it seems kinda fishy, but hes never heard either good nor bad things about them (in fact, hes never heard of them at all except for me lol)
My buddy is a Lanzar Dealer and he swears by the stuff.. higher end stuff though
I wouldnt use it, myself, but he is pretty happy with it and he knows what he is doing.. ill stick with the W7
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why limit yourself to alpine and lanzar? what kind of sound are u looking to get? what kind of tweeter will please you? sharp, precise, defined (hard dome, such as aluminum or titanium), or more warm and natural and smooth (soft dome such as silk), looking for a woofer that is going to be sealed up or free air? i also suggest having some 3/4 inch MDF rings cut to mount your mids, not just an adapter,you will need that extra space to clear your windows. I think you might want to give us a good idea of the kind of sound you are looking for, the total spending limit for everything (im assuming 1500 you mentioned?), and if u are willing to go with other brands, because i myself would have to say some companies do better for certain things... i would never run RF subs over other options, but i dont mind their amps as long as i get the prices on them i have been getting. i personaly think an Alpine head unit is the way to go, AND you might find that if u set up your front stage properly, that and subs is all you are going to want... 6x9s out back might hurt more than help if not done right...seriously consider other options and respond to my questions and i wanna give more detailed recomendations and help
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Thanks everyone for the very fast responses. I am a total noob when it comes to audio setups. I want a strong system that hits hard, but sounds good; mostly to show off to friends and brag a little lol. See, all I am going by is what somebody else says and from what I have heard in real life and on videos. I really would love to stick to the names brands like Alpine or JL, but I was just thinking that the stuff I mentioned was competition stuff, while the stuff I would get from a brand name is average for the same price. If anyone wants to have a conversation give me your AIM screename so you can give me some advice. Thanks again
Lanzars Opti series is actually pretty decent stuff.
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Would you recommend me getting them Lash over alpine or other? I sent you a message earlier, wanting you to get on aim.
Lanzars Optidrive line is very nice, yes, the only reason i brought up other things, is because there are so many brands out that make great stuff and have just as good bang for the buck, that i would hate to limit myself to one or a few brands. if u want to talk to me on aim, its JLAudioCavalier
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OK, after spending an hour on AIM talking to JLAudioCavalier last night, he suggested I stick to what I originally planned with going with the type-r subs. Here is my new projected system. All of the new setup I would be buying from woofersetc.com, which is where I found all the below products. Any comments on either of my proposed systems are still welcome, and let me know which system you would go with or if I should change anything on either systems... Thanks
Lanzar setup: look at top post
Alpine setup:
CD Deck: Alpine CDA-9856 (already installed)
Subs: (2) 12" Alpine Type R SWR-1222D (1500W Dual 2 Ohm Subwoofer)
Amps: Audison Package Deal w/LRX 1.400 (to power subs)/LRX 4.300 (to power components)
Component Set: CDT Audio CL-61A (Classic 6.5" 2-Way Component Set)
Custom 6.5" Adaptor Mounting Rings of 3/4 inch MDF for the comp set.
Rear 6x9s: Take out, dynamat rear, leave holes for ventilation
Custom built ported sub box to the Type-R specs
Optima yellow top battery under the hood
Also for the subs, should I got 2ohm or 4ohm; Type-R subs are made both ways
two Dual 4 ohms if your amp is 1 ohm stable for most power, Dual 2 ohms if you're going to be running 2-1 ohm stable amps or a 0.5 ohm amp (I havent seen very many of these) Lower resistance = more power to subs, higher resistance = more clarity to subs (or so I've read here). Personally I dont really care about clarity in terms of subs, as its just solid bass. Sealed boxes will provide alot of clarity, if you're looking for fast response times. Otherwise, if you have your other speakers to handle the clarity (and not the bass) ported will be much, much louder (if built right)
Calvin, anything you said that makes sense has already been established and completely irrelevant,....everything else you just said is completely wrong.....AND IM SICK OF THE SEALED BOX HAVING BETTER SQ THAN PORTED MYTH!
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Yea, I made up my mind on a ported box before I even thought of either setups...
BTW, JLAudioCav that amp (Audison LRX1.400) in that package deal can handle both the subs right? They seem like a lot of money for two amps that are just average. I have been doing some research on the caraudioforums and they are great. Thanks for all your help and I'm probably gonna go with the Alpine/Mixed setup just because of quality and the brand names. Now I just have to get all that cash...
that 1.400 will do fine, u get the dual 4 ohm Type-Rs, wire the coils down to 2 ohms, then wire them together down to 1ohm, and that will send a good clean 900watts to the pair. I highly recomend Audison anywhere i can, their amps are matched and exceeded only by very few... and the few that i would recomend as well as or above Audison (mcintosh, zapco, brax, etc...) are all priced well above Audison
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Just making sure here; I should go with the SWR-1242D (12" Type-R 4ohm) instead of the SWR-1222D (12" Type-R 2ohm) subs? I hope you get on AIM sometime again because I do have a few more questions I need to ask you.
hey sorry im not on much durring the day, im usualy not even home till damn near midnight, but with that amp, u want a 1 ohm load, so u want the 4 ohm dual coil subs... being that u wire the coils together t get a 2 ohm load, then wire the subs together to get a 1 ohm load... e mail me, its jlaudiocavalier@aol.com if u need more info on anything that i might be able to help with, if im not on at the time
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I have been thinkin; would it be ok to run stock speakers for a while after I get two subs and an amp to power them? I was just thinkin that would save me almost another $500. That would make it easy when I get the subs, and I could always add the components and another amp later on. This way I will be able to get the subs a little sooner. And honestly, I like the way my stock system sounds right now; I just need more bass. Let me know if I will be able to run stock speakers for now and just add two type-r subs and that lanzar opti2000D amp.
yeah that would work good i run stock speakers on my cavi and its an 04 as well.. the stock 6x9's and 4x6's sound great on our cavi's... i would put at least a set of tweeters in there tho.... make sure also that with ur head unit u turn the treble all the way up and the bass all the way down so only the subs will be putting out the bass, and the other speakers put out the highs and mids... sounds great in my car
Yeah, thats what I was hoping for. I am really happy with the stock setup, just gotta have some subs. Thanks for the quick responce
np man glad to help... but seriously get tweeters... u dont wanna be one of those people who just has a @!#$ load of bass and no highs to make sure u can actually hear the music lol
I know what you are sayin; so ya I will have to do something
ummm j.j. ..... dont give advice....
ATK: if you want to do it piece by piece, i dont see why not, if the OPTI amp is anywhere near the price of the Audison 1.400, i would recomend the Audison, their amps are sooo amazing, if the Lanzar Opti is quite a bit cheaper, obviously you would want that...
now i dont exactly agree with JJ.... installing tweeters up front with ur stock speakers and cranking the highs and dropping the lows all the way down would be retarded... install ur amp, install ur subs, set everything up, put ur volume at about 3/4 and set all ur HU's EQ FLAT, and pop in a cd with the kinda music u will listen to the most, adjust it till the bass is where u want it, then set ur HU settings till ur speakers are sounding the best they can without pushing them too hard, because it is quite possible, your stock speakers wont keep up with the subs, but dont push them beyond their limit. getting new fronts and tuning some more will sound amazing, but subs for now shoudltn be a problem at all...hope im helping you here lol
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Yea I probly wasn't going to just buy tweeters. I am going to get a component set eventually. The subs and stock speakers would just be a temporary thing. I definitely would want the stock stuff to last until I got the money to get a nice set of components. The whole amp and sub thing... I want to save money. I heard the Lanzar Opti2000D is am amazing amp and it definitely will push any subs nicely and the Audison is about the same price, but the Opti has better stats. Also I am not sure again if I want to go with the Lanzar Opti1232 subs or the Type-Rs because I heard good things about both, but heard more bad about the Type-Rs (being overrated). I still have the decision of choosing between those two amps and those two subs.
I have seen type Rs running off almost 1k watts rms and loving every minute of it... i realy dont think theyre over rated at all, i have also heard a ton of good about those opti subs as well, its a toss up man, and i realy dont think there is anything over rated, or underpowering, or bad at all in any way about the audison, and their quality will surpass anything lanzar makes, im not bashing lanzar, as their opti line is amazing stuff, but audison amps will prevail always for me. just get dual 4ohm coils on the subs, rather than 2ohm, and you can wire them down to a 1 ohm load, get the most out of the amp and u will be sooo happy,... for the most part this is your decision and i will not sway you away from lanzar optidrive stuff,,.... but Audison will ALWAYS be on top of them as far as amps go
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That is a tough one. Audison does make some really nice stuff. Same with the Optidrive series. Not trying to sway you one way or another, both are nice amps, but the opti is 1/3 of the price of the audison, double the rms, and the ladies love the lanzar
If you do decide to go lanzar speakers and the audison amp, go with the Opti1234d's, they're dual 4 ohm coils.
