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why does my smaller amp pound louder then my big 1
Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:12 PM
Well to start i have the new MTX superwoofer rated @ 400wattsRMS, I have been running a kicker 250.2 to the sub, which is rated at 250Watts RMS. I bought a Pioneer GM-5000T which is 380watts RMS. But ive lost so much bass since the transfer to the pioneer. Would this be because my kicker has an adjustable crossover and bass boost and the pioneer doesnt?? This is really bugging me (a waste of my money)

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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:17 PM
If the pioneer does not have bass boost ( GAIN ), and ( OR ) a crossover, it is junk. By the way, what's the model number on that pioneer, that way we know what where looking at.



Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:06 PM
Kicker > Pioneer


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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:27 PM
yea, that pioneer is a little on the junky side.

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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:08 PM
that kicker's probably actually rated much higher than the 250 stamped on it anyway. they have a habit of underrating their amps.



Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:30 PM
^^^^^Very true, and for pioneer, they ALWAYS overrated there amps output.



Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:21 PM
CrAzY Z24 wrote:If the pioneer does not have bass boost ( GAIN ), and ( OR ) a crossover, it is junk. By the way, what's the model number on that pioneer, that way we know what where looking at.


he said he has the gmt-5000t


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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:36 PM
CrAzY Z24 wrote:If the pioneer does not have bass boost ( GAIN ), and ( OR ) a crossover, it is junk. By the way, what's the model number on that pioneer, that way we know what where looking at.


i hope your not trying to imply that bass boost is the same as gain, because its not. gain is a measure of the ratio of size of the input signal vs output signal. on some amps bass boost will affect gain, but bass boost is not gain


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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:26 AM
I had the 5100T which is SUPPOSED to be 360 or 380 bridged. Poor ole MTX T7500 could take a clipping




Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:13 AM
No im not implying that gain and bass boost are the same, some lower model amps I have seen list the gain as bass boost. I know gain is a feature to match to your amp preout voltage. I was just stating that if that amp has neither, its junk.



Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:27 AM
ohh snaps.........


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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:33 AM
^^^^^



Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:47 PM
switch back to the kicker! my buddy had a 200.2 and i beleive the bench test said it was just over 300RMS



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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:51 PM
CrAzY Z24 wrote:No im not implying that gain and bass boost are the same, some lower model amps I have seen list the gain as bass boost. I know gain is a feature to match to your amp preout voltage. I was just stating that if that amp has neither, its junk.


well yeah thats pretty much true. just so you know, i wasn't trying to start @!#$ with you, i have just seen too many people who have no idea what gain really is, and it gets annoying


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Re: why does my smaller amp pound louder then my b
Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:31 PM
^^^^^It's cool, I know what you meant, I hate when people are like, "and thats with the amp only turned half way up, so its only getting half the power", please.



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