ok, not sure which way to go with this, so looking for suggestions. In my first gen, Im planning on turning it into a 2+2 and putting some woofers in it. Im NOT going to do the competitions, I just want it to sound like I could. I have 2 ways of doing this and not sure which would sound better. I plan to cut the origional bracing from behind the seat and cut and cover mdf to fill in the area behind the seats. I got to thinking that this could actually be used as one side of the box. Now, should I, A- stack the 2 subs one on top of the other facing into the car between the seats, or B- have them on the backside of the box, facing out the trunk and port them to the inside of the car between the seats? Its not going to be a huge box, no deeper than the package tray, and the whole width from side to side. I still have to have some trunk space. If I go with the inward facing subs, Ill flush mount the amp in the rear of the box, if its ported to the inside, Ill flush mount it between the seats. Any suggestions you guys could offer would be great.
Oh, I dont know what subs or amp Ill be using yet, Ive been looking into them and reading the forums to get opinions on those. Im pretty sure Ill end up with a pair of 12's. But I really like the L7s... maybe one 15".....
oh well..... thanks in advance guys
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Forward firing almost never sounds good. Aim to the rear if that's the only option you have. Corner loading is best but it doesn't sound like you can pull that off.
I'm going to be bulding corner boxes for the trunk, is it ok to forward fire them?
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by corner loading, are you talking about making the fiberglass boxes that fit in the rear corner of the trunk? I thought about that, but have never worked with 'glass before and would hate to start on a big project like that. Also, wouldnt the seats and the backboard muffle the bass a bit? I dont have the big bucks to run huge speakers and amp to compensate for the muffling.
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I could make you some boxes
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Not for free though
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I've also though about inverse mounting the subs in corner boxes in the trunk.
Question. What did you mean by 2+2?
Im taking out the rear bench seat and putting in 2 bucket seats. And I have a first gen, not alot of room there in the corners for subs, but thanks.
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BradSk88 wrote:Forward firing almost never sounds good. Aim to the rear if that's the only option you have. Corner loading is best but it doesn't sound like you can pull that off.
thats a misconception. an actually big misconception. if he plans on sealing off the trunk from the interior of the car forward firing will most likely result in the most spl and the cleanest sound.
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ok, so thats one vote for a sealed forward firing setup.
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BradSk88 wrote:Forward firing almost never sounds good. Aim to the rear if that's the only option you have. Corner loading is best but it doesn't sound like you can pull that off.
ok... false, false, and falser
1. front firing is only best if it is 100% sealed off from the trunk into the cabin
2. rear firing will give the best sound usualy if sealing it frontaly is not an option(and closer to the trunk usualy posts best results when rear firing, but of course makes trunkspace useless)
3. corner loading is probly the worst of all options.
and to the origional poster... if you cant build the baffle to seal it off from the trunk completely, then forward firing may not be for you, i seriously think ur best bet is to go with a conventional rear firing set up, and also, if you plan on upgrading ur front stage, removing the 6x9s, and letting the holes allow a lil more bass to vent into the cabin is always good too, and sound deadener makes a world more difference than most average people think it will, investing there is a good route as well
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I said those things assuming he was NOT sealing the trunk from the front so stop rubbing it in
But I honestly did think corner loading was the best option and have been told this by many people. Do you have any evidence to support that it isn't? I thought it was the best because there was no rear wave from the original wave bouncing off of hard surfaces.
ears are the best judges, some ears are trained better than others, but like i said, if sealing it off from the trunk is not an option for front firing, the best SQ advice would be to get his subs, his box, and try what sounds best to HIM, in general, about 6 inches away from the trunk lid, rear firing is going to be the best option, corner loading from every situation i have heard corner positioned subs in, has the least bass reproduction and lesser sound... but who am i? just someone who listened to all of the above mentioned applications.........
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I wasnt planning on completely sealing the trunk off from the front. What I was thinking was basically building a box, with the "front" of it being the board Im going to put in place of the rear seats. So it will be a sealed box, just not gonna use the whole trunk as the "box". I wish my scanner was working, I drew up an idea, but cant scan it to the comp to show yall what Im talking about.
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well here is what im getting at with front firing.... the front of the subs will be facing into the car, then the box will be behind them in the trunk... you want that airspace in the trunk sealed off from the airspace in the cabin, not saying using the trunk AS the box, but even with the box built, and the front baffle replacing the rear seat, make sure no air gets in between the front and rear
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exactly... just couldnt put it into words
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Do you need the spare tire well? There is enough space there to build a 2 cu ft sealed enclosure where you could have the subwoofers firing up into the trunk.
yeah, that would sound worse than his current plan, why suggest something lesser?
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BradSk88 wrote:I said those things assuming he was NOT sealing the trunk from the front so stop rubbing it in
But I honestly did think corner loading was the best option and have been told this by many people. Do you have any evidence to support that it isn't? I thought it was the best because there was no rear wave from the original wave bouncing off of hard surfaces.
if the sub is mounted on the back wall of the interior so to speak then the wave is starting from a single point and the soundwave can't move behind itself so there is less cancelation. Corner loading is a great option if your just putting a box in the car. but just putting a box in the car and then sealing off your trunk with your subs flush with the back wall are two completly diffrent things and not something most people take the time to do. when allot of people suggest something what they say is the "best" way is usually the "best in a certain application, not nessicarily the best of every way possible.
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