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Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:45 PM
Hey,

Im trying to install my remote starter on my car but i cant find the tach wire. Is there any other place where i can wire it up instead of the tach? It says on the manual that i can wire it to tach OR alternator Stator Wire but i dont also know where the alternator stator wire is located. Sorry im noob to this of stuff. Thanks Everyone.

Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Friday, March 16, 2007 4:49 AM
Purple/White in engine harness - The engine harness is found next to the battery, below the radiator hose, just above the transaxle



Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Friday, March 16, 2007 6:01 AM
or the odd wire off an injector. your injectors will have one wire that ios the same on all of them . use one that is not the same as the rest
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Friday, March 16, 2007 9:45 AM
You can do that too, but sometimes getting to the coil pack is a pain in the butt.



Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Friday, March 16, 2007 8:03 PM
If i remember right... which I probably don't, it's a light green which is the common wire in the injectors. You need the purple/white or dark green from one of the injectors (can't remember the other 2 colors)




Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Friday, March 16, 2007 10:53 PM
uncommon side of an injector, meaning all the injectors are gonna have one wire that is the same color, the one that isnt the same color is your tach. If you got an ecotec you can also find it at the Ignition module (i think) on the pass side of the engine bay on the fire wall, the harness closest to the fire wall, wire color is white or orange make sure you test first!
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Monday, April 21, 2008 11:55 AM
Lanman31337 - Cavfire wrote:Purple/White in engine harness - The engine harness is found next to the battery, below the radiator hose, just above the transaxle


I've heard this one before, and I am still unable to find it. I have a 1997 2.2L manual Sunfire. By engine harness, do people mean a bunch of wires in a wire loom, or is it like some sort of box where the wires terminate etc. If anyone had pictures it would be great, its basically the last wire I need to wire to install my automatic locks/alarm system/car starter. Thanks a lot.

Jeff
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:31 AM
Ok, I found this purple wire with a white stripe. I started the engine, tested it with my multimeter on AC, and I got like 1.1 Volts. The second I turned my multimeter to DC, it stalled the engine just like that. Any ideas on if that is the right wire? When I reved the engine, the 1.1V reading didnt change though
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:20 AM
Ok, I read a comment on this topic: http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=4&i=117773&t=115876#117773
and one guy mentions that its the orange wire in the engine harness. I tested this wire with my multimeter on AC, and it reads 0.6-0.7 and when I rev it goes higher and higher, I went up to about 1.6. This obviously seems a little low compared to what everyone says it should be (6-7V). Do you think it is simply units on my voltmeter? For AC I can set it to either 500V or 200v, so I obviously set it to 200V (the lowest), and it reads 0.6.

This is the multimeter I have:

http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Automotive/TestTune/MultiTesters/0251031_450_CC_31ef1.jpg
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:15 PM
Just re-program the starter to voltage drop and you wont have to run a tach wire,thats how i install all my starters,its way easier.It will have in your manual how to program the voltage drop on your starter,if you have a newer dei its menu 2 option 1.Just read your manual and re-program it,but a tach wire sould read 1.1 and make sure you loom the wire and grommet the hole you dont want that wire hitting metal or arching off anything
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Monday, April 28, 2008 10:10 PM
wizard im sorry but your a lazy installer....on an r/s you should always install the tach wire.....it guarantees start up in all occasions....What do you do in the winter?? turn up the voltage? what about in the summer, turn it back down? If you dont which im sure you haven't because they are not your cars, now the starter grinds every time they use the r/s in the summer....eventually that means the starter is gonna die, especially if they use their r/s as often as i do. Not only that but if the voltage is to low in the winter it will never start, so i wouldnt let you install my r/s.....Then again thats why i do it myself =P.. Dont be lazy because its easier....especially in a r/s USE TACH!!

Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:43 PM
Well i've been installing remote starters from 4 years now and have had zero issues w/ starters coming back. I've actually seen more cars come back due to installers not soldering the tach wire or the tach wire rubs off in an un-grommeted hole. I understand where your coming from its just the way i do and have had no problems w/ it....I have a viper 791xv in my sunfire and it is programmed w/ voltage drop and it does not grind the starter in the winter.....every installer has his own way of doing things,do what works for you
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:47 PM
Ok, well I recently decided to try this again as the good old Quebec winter is coming and I'd love a car starter. I have a manual transmission and I do not want to voltage drop, I'm also pretty sure I HAVE to attach the tach wire.

I just finished checking the uncommon side of the fuel injectors - with my multimeter I got a reading of like 29.8 V (AC) and then I tried it on DC because that seemed off to me and it read like 13 V (DC). When I reved the engine the voltage fluxuated +/- 1V roughly but it seemed random.

I've read numerous times that the voltage should be like 6-7V (AC). Will the injector work even though it is not displaying the voltage I am looking for?
I have a 1997 2.2L OHV Sunfire with a manual transmission. My alarm/starter is a Skytec VisionGuard 8000m.

I'm really running out of options here..none of the wires I test happen to work.
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:11 PM
Cars run DC voltage...not AC.



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Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:21 PM
Luke - the tach signal is AC.

OP - the stator wire is in the alternator harness, it's going to be one of the three wires. One's going to be 12 volt switched, one is going to be ground, and the third is going to be your stator wire. Stator wire energises your voltage regulator.

The purple/white wire is going to be clustered in with a bundle of wires.



Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:09 PM
Ok, well I've tried the purple/whie wire to no avail. This is why I decided to try the uncommon side of the fuel injector.
I honestly dont care whiche one I use as long as I get it to work. So...with that being said:

1) Will the uncommon fuel injector wire irregardless of the voltage it is giving off?
2) The Purple/white wire in the engine harness next to the battery under the rad hose, above the transaxle is it in the Wire loom surrounded by Green or the wire loom surrounded by the Blue in the picture below? The green goes directly over the transaxle but then turns around behind the engine. The blue one is next to it and goes up towards the box surrounded by red and then through the firewall.


Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:48 AM
Uncommon wire off the injector will work, most definitely. Just give it a quick measure on the old ac voltage. Should have around 1 at idle, and around 5-6 ish when you rev the engine. I can't see the picture at work, they block photobucket.



Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:51 AM
uncommon wire off any injector? I tested the 2 outer ones (injector 1 and 4), and both read the same A/C voltage of like ~30
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:58 PM
well actually when i tested the injector i put my positive lead on the uncommon wire, and the negative lead to a ground source. Should I have put the negative to the common wire?
Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Monday, September 29, 2008 7:51 AM
You can also grab it off of the PCM in the passenger's fender. It'll be a solid white wire. You've got some weird stuff going on with your car bro.



Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Monday, September 29, 2008 2:19 PM
Ok, so I retested the uncommon wire off the injector - but this time I put a lead on the uncommon wire, and another lead on the other injector wire (as opposed to the ground). It read anywhere from 1-6 V (A/C). So I decided to use that. I tapped into it and my car FINALLY learned the tach signal - except it still won't start.

I start the engine, put it in neutral, take foot off of brake and pull handbrake.
I then press the car start button
Then I take the key out of the ignition
Exit the car and close the door behind me
Car shuts off
Arm the alarm
Press button to start car
Parking light and horn beep 4 times and attempts to start
The starter cranks but not enough to actually start the car (FAIL)
It then attempts to do it 2 more times.

Any ideas what is going on?

Re: Tach/Alternator Wire for Remote Starter
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:42 AM
Did you use a PLJX bypass module?



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