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ok this is my amp its the 2000/1D version and i thought i had a bass knob but this tells me i have a gain control what is better and what does each one do? if its a gain control knob then i need to retune my amp. (i have the bass eq all the way as i thought i would be controling it in the cab).
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it is just a remote gain control as per the description.
I wouldn't use it at all. That's screaming clipping.
ok now that i know its a gain knob i will be using it just because its all ready installed. but what does it do? just control the gain? can any one get into specifics about it?
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Sure can. It controls the gain. Remotely. Which you shouldn't do because your gain should be set at the amp and left there. Gain is to match the voltage from your head unit's RCA's.
it will only go as high as the gain on the amp is set.
There's an awesome sticky about gain settings...
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wow what a difference it is with the amp redone up the sound is 10x cleaner and almost louder than before. but i realized that the volume does not get any louder the higher i turn the gain up after about say half way. do you think i should set the gain at half then control it in the cab? ( i know i shouldnt use it at all but its so convenient)
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also do oyu think i need more power to the amp? my car charges at a steady 14.4 and when it hits hard a idle it goes to about 13.2 -13.0 should i upgrade my charging system , do the big three, hook up a cap(have one thats a 4 farad, too much maybe?)???
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ok, i dont have access to a multimeter, or where can i buy one for cheap? to where i could get it perfect. but i think for now if i tune it by ear and get it to where it seems like its not going any louder and set it would that be fine? and what about the bass eq any suggestions as to what a nice nominal setting for that is?
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walmart has them. sears usally has one on sale.
Gain is not a volume knob, the fact that it is getting "louder" as you turn it up is because you are limiting the pre out volume. So say before your Head unit had settings from 0-30 and you gain was set to 50% (for arguments sake) so say it is "loud" at 20 out of 30 on your head unit, then you decide to crank the gain, and now it is "loud" at 15, but it will not get any louder, and it will increasing the chances of clipping. All you have done by turning the gain up is allowed the head unit to become "louder" with less effort, but it does not increase the maximum output by any means, your gain should be set to match your head unit voltage pre outs, which is the point of maximum output before clipping, then leave it there.
Nope.
sndsgood wrote:if the gain at the amp is set for a safe unclipped level then there is nothing wrong with using the remote gain as a volume control. because he can never turn the remote gain up to cause clipping since the maximum gain setting is coming from the amp end of it.
You are kind of right but there is actually quite alot wrong with using the remote gain as a "volume control" because this nor any gain control is NOT A VOLUME knob. Hence it changes the amount of gain and not the amount of volume. If he sets the gain on his amp to the point of maximum yeild before no clipping then he should leave it that way, NOTHING he does to the amp will make it any louder and still allow it to operate safely. Where you are in correct is in believing that the remote gain only controls the preset gain of the amp, this is in fact not true. The remote gain knob controls the gain FROM the point that it is set on the amp rather then TO the point it is set on the amp (which sndsgood explains) Say for example the amp has a gain range of 0-10 and it is safe at 5, then the remote knob will only turn it up or down from that 5 point, not 0.
The only safe way to set up a remote gain knob is to wire up the gain knob and set it to max. Then you set the gain on the amp. The knob allows you to turn it down from there without the risk of getting the gain higher than you can safely run it.
Ashley o wrote:
The only safe way to set up a remote gain knob is to wire up the gain knob and set it to max. Then you set the gain on the amp. The knob allows you to turn it down from there without the risk of getting the gain higher than you can safely run it.
thats how i did it i set it at max on the knob them plugged it in and set my gain.
this is good info to know thanks.
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Ashley o wrote:sndsgood wrote:if the gain at the amp is set for a safe unclipped level then there is nothing wrong with using the remote gain as a volume control. because he can never turn the remote gain up to cause clipping since the maximum gain setting is coming from the amp end of it.
You are kind of right but there is actually quite alot wrong with using the remote gain as a "volume control" because this nor any gain control is NOT A VOLUME knob. Hence it changes the amount of gain and not the amount of volume. If he sets the gain on his amp to the point of maximum yeild before no clipping then he should leave it that way, NOTHING he does to the amp will make it any louder and still allow it to operate safely. Where you are in correct is in believing that the remote gain only controls the preset gain of the amp, this is in fact not true. The remote gain knob controls the gain FROM the point that it is set on the amp rather then TO the point it is set on the amp (which sndsgood explains) Say for example the amp has a gain range of 0-10 and it is safe at 5, then the remote knob will only turn it up or down from that 5 point, not 0.
The only safe way to set up a remote gain knob is to wire up the gain knob and set it to max. Then you set the gain on the amp. The knob allows you to turn it down from there without the risk of getting the gain higher than you can safely run it.
my responce was based on my first reply in which i said IF the remote gain does not go louder then what was set at the amp. i wasnt telling the guy to just go do it. so in reality i wasn't nessicarily wrong. my kicker amps have what they call a remote gain control knob as well and it just takes a percentage of volume based off of what is set at the amp itself. so with my remote knob i can not turn it any higher volume or gain wise then what is set at the amp. the origonal poster will have to try and see how his amp and remote gain is setup.
and i agree that a gain is not used as a volume control. BUT if the volume does not change and you can adjust the bass down for a certain song and then raise it back up then it is doing the same work as a volume knob would.
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how did oyu go a talk to them? i sent them an email a while back and got no response? did you call?
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Anton Miller wrote:how did oyu go a talk to them? i sent them an email a while back and got no response? did you call?
Some people here know people, and some people are the people.
I see
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case and point... just don't use knobs...
some people like to have different bass amounts for different kinds of music. i like my EBC or external bass control so i can turn it down during rock songs and up during rap or hip hop stuff. but... it will never go any higher than what the amp is set at.
You look so much cuter with something in your mouth.
Some of the bass knobs add + db's to just a certain frequency, usually 50. Problem with that is that it adds extra voltage to the system, and then you start to clip.
