Just going to let you know from the start, I'm asking for opinion. I want to know if anybody has listened to both the Alpine SPX-17PRO and the Hertz Hi-Energy HSK-165 XL. I'm really leaning towards the Hertz at this point but I just want to know if these speakers are even in the same league. Trying to keep from comparing apples and oranges. Thanks!
I have heard those R's. They're pretty darn good, fairly deep to work with in most doors, and can be beat for similar or slightly higher price. The Hertz I haven't listened to but they make some good speakers. What qualities are you looking to compare specifically? a lot of different speakers sound different in different ways. Plus, are those speakers the only 2 you are interested in considering at all?
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i highly recommend the hertz.
they sound amazing. i run all hertz and audison equipment. and u wont be disappointed i promise.
i haven't heard those alpine speakers but i did have a set of type x 5 1/4 and the hertz energy blow them out of the water. hi energy no comparison.
but thats just my 2 cents, and take it for what it is. my 2 cents, when ur buying speakers its all about what u think sounds good not us.
JL ZR 650 are better. Hell, even C3s are better than any of those.
Although I do respect hertz and alpine..
Andrey B wrote:JL ZR 650 are better. Hell, even C3s are better than any of those.
Although I do respect hertz and alpine..
And you have personally heard all of them and prefer the same exact sound the OP prefers? Do enlighten us. I have never seen you give advice, so I am just saying....
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I heard alpines and i heard hertz way before i heard JL. and as soon as i did i forgot about the rest.
to each their own of course but to me JL will always sound best for several reasons.
1. They use silk tweeters which significantly decreases ear fatigue
2. They puts tons of R&D into their products
3. They're underrated which means they can handle more power than stated
Another brand I like is Focal
As of now I am running 2 sets of JL C3s And 3 10W3V4 powered by JL G6600 and RF T2500 for subs
And to me this is as good as it gets.
they will both likely do pretty good, id probably end up leaning towards the hertz out of the two options posted. but unless your listenind with my ears that might not be the best option to you. also another thing to mention is installation plays just as big if not more of a factor on your finished sound. so how and where our installing can be an issue. id try and test them out if you can. think of how you will be installing them and make sure each brand will fit in that location. figure out wether the speakers are built for on-axis or off-axis responce and install them that way.
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Those aren't the only ones I'm considering. The install would be purely SQ. I care nothing for SPL. The hertz is a good example of the quality level I am considering. I know the alpines aren't in the same league. And as for the JL comment I have read alot of reviews and I know the JL's are awesome but I don't think they quite stand up to hertz hi-energy and definitely not the Mille line for the price. The JL ZR-s are really expensive. There are better lines for the price. The C3's are more in my price range but do you think they are in the same class as the Hi-energy?
and snsgood: I want to replace the Polk MOMO MMC6500's I have in the front doors and probably move them to the back. They are good speakers but I think I would be happier if I had better speakers in the front doors and just put those in the back where they aren't the main focus. And I have no idea about on or off axis. I will have to do some reading. But your advice is duly noted. Theres only so much money you can spend and then its all up to skill in the install.
Install location and install quality plays a huuuuuuge factor in your speakers sound and even what speakers u should chose. What kind of price are you able to get the hi-e's for? I might have a few other higher end options to look into too. The dealer I deal with for the higher end customers might have some good options (rainbow, hertz, dls, dynaudio, focal, tru, synfoni etc)
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jlaudios post above hit it. install with play as much of a role in how good a sound you attain as the name on the speaker itself. install is everything. on axis. speakers that are designed to be mounted so they are more facing the listener. off-axis. speakers that were designed to be mounted off-axis. or away from the listener. its why people allot of time don't like the hard dome type tweeters, they stand in front of them at a sound shop and say they sound harsh. when they are designed to be off-axis. or about 90degress the other direction.
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yeah. so most of the time I try to recommend a speaker with a soft tweeter to MOST of us J guys. Reason being, most of us seem to drop the tweeter into a sail panel or in front of the door handle. If you Sunfire guys put them in the stock locations, a metal tweeter isn't as much of a concern, while being "aimed" upwards, they are mounted quite a bit lower from your ear so that harshness of the metal dome tweeters isn't as much of a big deal. My over all preference is towards soft tweeters because I feel, in my experience, that it's much easier to tune and mesh everything in a passive component set with a soft tweeter. I like good, clean, crisp highs, just not too harsh or tinny. So it's a little more work to blend a metal tweeter when I am fighting the fact that the passive crossover is doing most of the work for me. Going active with a nice head unit and amp, and it's all in my hands now, so a hard tweeter is easier to control.
Sorry ranting now lol.
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yeah install placement, and as much as I love giving speaker buying advice, LISTENING will help. Even if you want more advice on the product you finally buy, at least have some experience with each tweeter material to really know what your ear is going to like.
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