Hey dudes. I have an 03 Cav 2 door, Im going to be changing all the stock speakers in the car. What do you guys think of these JL's. I listen to a lot of rock and euro like BPM stuff. I noticed in my last system, the highs were not so clear when cranked, but I was only working with 3.5"'s. Looking for clear highs and good mid bass. These speakers will be amped.
www.crutchfield.com/s_136C2600X/JL-Audio-C2-600X.html?tp=95 what do you guys think of these. Will they give me what I'm asking for? Can I get away with buying a cheaper pair like a JL TR600-cxi? Will these speakers give me trouble width wise on the install do you guys think? If you have any other speaker suggestions, I am all ears. Thanks
2003 Cavalier 2dr. 5spd
So I'm guessing 200 is your top budget for a good set of components up front? What's the overall budget and what sub(s) are you running? What amp will be powering the speakers, or what's the total budget for an amp, speakers, and accessories. You will need baffles to mount the mids, and to get the most out of them, some good quality dampening material for the doors. Especially to get the best midbass out of ur mids. I personally would like a little more info before giving advice and recommendations.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
Here is my set up. Nothing is installed yet.
HU- Pioneer DEH-P3800MP (22rms x4, 2 volt rca's)
Alpine 4 channel MRP-F450, (70rms x4) Sub is bridged, the 6.5"' fronts will be amped through channels 1+2
JL 10" W1 Sub, buying a Truck Style Power Wedge Box for more space in my trunk
Need to be purchased,
Desided on Alpine 6x9's Type S SPS-609
The 6.5" speakers I listed above are Coax's. I don't think I need components, I think a good 2 way 6.5" speaker with built in crossovers will be all I need. My budget can be a little over $200 for the 6.5" if need be. I'm hoping to save a bit of money by going coax instead of components.
Accessories I have Stinger 4gauge, monster 4 channel rca's, and monster speaker wire. I just need the baffles and sound damping for the doors, I hear you know of someone who can make mdf 6.5" baffles for the cavalier. If you still have his info, I can get the baffles from him. I live in Toronto, Canada, would he shipping be an issue? Thanks for the help and advice JL
2003 Cavalier 2dr. 5spd
Alpine SPR-17
These Alpines are getting good reviews too. So far, Alpine Tyre R's, and JL C2-600x. I'm basically looking for the best 2 way non-component 6.5" speakers. Which one would you choose JLCav between the Alpine and the JL, or any recommendations on another pair of non component 6.5".
2003 Cavalier 2dr. 5spd
why are you set against components? there are actually a few nice sets of component speakers out there in the 150-200 dollar price range that will sound just fine when tuned correctly off 70 watts per side. I highly suggest opening up to this idea:
Decent set of components-a door pack of Second Skin Damplifier Pro-some time learning how to tune and install or a professional install/tune-ditch the rear speakers in favor of putting that budget towards your front stage and substage(where all the music comes from, and should be focused on). Rear speakers being eliminated will make fully tuning everything much easier as well as give you the ability to really push the fronts and get the most sound to your ears you can without any delays, cancelation issues, or dragging the sound stage behind you.
I, as well as a couple others here, are always willing to help and give advice to make sure you not only buy the right equipment, but also install and tune it right so you get the most out of it. The best stuff in the world can sound like crap if not installed and tuned right.
But at any rate, am I for sure about to recommend $200 coaxial speakers, or are you open to some component suggestions? I am willing to bet Morel, DLS, or Rainbow all have coaxials in your price range, but I am fairly sure I can get you into some entry level speakers from one of the high end brands for that price too.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
I have 2 pairs of JL c5 components. they're the best speakers ever produced by a man. I have listened to focals, critical mass and other top names in audio and they don't sound nothing like JL c5 or zr series.. make sure you give them plenty of power though... i'd go with at least rockford fosgate t600 or better yet t1000. the sound will blow you away literally...
look into cercendo comps. affordable and very good quality
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The reasons why I'm against components are becuase-
-Searching crutchfield, it seems as tho I can get higher end coax's from JL and Alpine, rather than an entry level pair of comps.
-My last car didn't have comps and I was satisfied with the sound
-I'm paranoid of someone breaking and stealing my stuff, I think if they see tweeters in the door, they'll guess there's a system in the car
-Ease of install
BUT at the same time, I love clearity and sound quality and I have been interested for a while in comps. Don't get me wrong, I would love a set of comps, but sounds like I would have to settle for entry level with my price range and I just don't like the sound of 'entry level'.
I looked at the JL C5's Andrey was talking about, they are almost $800 with taxes on Crutchfield.
So, I'm open to your suggestions on comps JLcavalier, maybe I can stretch my budget to $275-300 if you think it is worth to buy entry level comps opposed to non entry level 2 way speakers. I was not able to find prices on the cercendo comps d wikes, any companies sell them online that you know of?
I appreciate the advice, I'm all ears
2003 Cavalier 2dr. 5spd
comp will have a crossover with them which will in turn give you ten times the clarity imo
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building your own speaker pods is an easy way of keeping your stock look also
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if you can't afford c5s go with c2s, i used to have them before, they're very good also and should fit your budget...
$300 or less? Rainbow SLC-265NG components, all day long. If you are serious about that budget bump, I can definitely get you into a pair of those. Rainbow might even have a new line out right now (can't remember, need to call my dealer to be reminded), in your price range, but I will say first hand that the SLC's will not disappoint at their price point.
Getting into a decent set of components will definitely give you a much better sound. you have passive crossovers to make sure the mid and tweeter only get the frequencies and power they need. With each speaker only playing it's "favorite" range of frequencies, they are less fatigued than a coaxial where the crossing point might not be so optimal and the tweet or mid is trying to play out of it' comfort zone, especially at volume. Aside from that, most manufacturers are going to spend a lot more R&D and time on their components than their drop on coax's. You just plain get a better speaker.
I'm not about to make a completely biased and ridiculous claim like "they're the best speaker built by man" because that's flat out opinion. Sorry Audrey, but that's a very foolish thing to say and could mislead people.... stop talking if that's the "advice" you give. I will always recommend things based on what I have experienced and heard with my own ears, but I will never say "brand x is the absolute best ever" because everyone's ears are different and I haven't heard every speaker in the world.
And d wilkes..... you might want to look at some higher end speakers before recommending Crescendo. I've seen some customer care issues as well as quality issues in their amps, and I can say now for all the Bass heads on CACO and all the other big SPL guys, they are "totally awesome" because they're cheap and they all buy 4+ sets to keep up with huge bass, on top of that every ghetto thumping bass head hood rat thinks 50 tweeters is how you play your highs to keep up with big subs..... Sorry but if THOSE are the people judging the "sound quality" of those cheap ass components, I don't want any part of it. I'll stick around the SQ crowd like I have for years. Crescendo was born on SPL minded boards, and sells well on them.... for a reason. They're highs are harsh, their price is low, and they keep the bassheads happy. That's about it.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
i run a spl setup
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Congrats, you just proved every point I tried to make about your recommendations here.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
people have different tastes but you continue bash me for mine. if you dont like what i got to say dont read it
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JL cavalier you call everybody foolish and useless and criticize every single person on this forum, so what kind of system you have? care to show some pics of your work? it looks to me as though you're more about talk than action..
I'm more about turning things out with the best quality work and time management, no I don't take pics while working on a customers car. I could and should start doing so, but proving myself to people like you means nothing to me. My own system? You want to see pics of door panels that hide my comps? You want to see a pic of a 4 channel amp mounted in the frunk of my MR2? Haven't gotten the custom boxes for my 8's done yet, but I guess I could get pics of that when it get's done? I don't understand what you want to see.
At any rate, I only criticize people when I see them giving bad info, or giving info without experience..... or giving advice that doesn't help the person asking for help. Sorry if I come off harsh and even like a complete ass hole, but it is what it is man.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
lmao for real. sq is for people that are scared to get loud. many of my spl setups probly sound better than your sq just at a louder volume
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jl, how about some pics of your subs and amps, and your components .. if you're pro installer it should only take you 3 minutes to remove door cover from 1 door.. i just want to get an idea of what 'quality' setups looks like cause i only spent like 100 hours on mine...
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LMAO at the noobs who came in and flooded the forum this week banding together to call me out. Hilarious. I'm not going to play with you fools anymore. Byeeeeee. Stop ruining people's threads with misinformation and BS, and I won't keep calling the 2 of you out.
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
"You really need to staple your face shut"-THE Joey Baggs.
Andrey B wrote:jl, how about some pics of your subs and amps, and your components .. if you're pro installer it should only take you 3 minutes to remove door cover from 1 door.. i just want to get an idea of what 'quality' setups looks like cause i only spent like 100 hours on mine...
Would it be good enough to say that I agree with JL's opinions and knowledge almost all the time.
And then post MY work?
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=4&i=159107&t=159107
nice build log man. love them comps
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JLAudioCavalier wrote:LMAO at the noobs who came in and flooded the forum this week banding together to call me out. Hilarious. I'm not going to play with you fools anymore. Byeeeeee. Stop ruining people's threads with misinformation and BS, and I won't keep calling the 2 of you out.
buddy, you don't even know me or what i am capable of and yet you're eager to criticize and pass your judgment about things you know very little about and to ME you're the noob that runs its mouth all over the forum... what have you done? do you have ANY education when it comes in audio/engineering or you one of those diy kids.. based on all your replies i've read so far you should be a movie or newspaper critic or something, and nothing more...
