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Finding a heat exchanger
Sunday, July 02, 2006 3:10 PM
I've been looking for a place to buy a heat exchanger for a week or so and so far I can't. I'm not entirely sure what to look for. If somebody could post a link to where they bought theirs that would be great. Thanks.




Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Sunday, July 02, 2006 3:20 PM
I'm in the exact same position you are in, and most of the people I ask say eBay. But I know zzperformance.com has some for the Grand Prix's and was thinking that I might be able to use one of those but am still kinda unsure. I'm mainly trying to find the P/N for the Cobalt SS/SC reservoir.

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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 5:08 AM
heat exchanger
coolant pump

Reservoir 22697069
Bracket 22707614
Cap for the reservoir- 15076936
drain hose 22697111
hose off the reservoir down 22731576




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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 11:00 AM
Whoa, thanks Dante, that's exactly what I was looking for.



Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 11:11 AM
Blown DanteMustDie wrote:heat exchanger
coolant pump

Reservoir 22697069
Bracket 22707614
Cap for the reservoir- 15076936
drain hose 22697111
hose off the reservoir down 22731576



YOU BEAT ME TO IT! but come on 5 AM! wow go to bed









Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 12:06 PM
STREAKER1369 wrote:
Blown DanteMustDie wrote:heat exchanger
coolant pump

Reservoir 22697069
Bracket 22707614
Cap for the reservoir- 15076936
drain hose 22697111
hose off the reservoir down 22731576



YOU BEAT ME TO IT! but come on 5 AM! wow go to bed


it was 8 AM for me when I posted this lol. and you guys can thank 97cavie (aka eric), he's the one who helped me make this list



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 12:26 PM








Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:08 PM
YEAH he's the one that helped me to now i just need to actully buy it all LOL


i guess he's alright






Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:21 PM
Anything wrong with the ones from zzperformance.com? They seem to be a better price. I dont know about everyone else, but I hate buying off of ebay.

$135 Heat exchanger
$150 Intercooler pump

GM Parts Direct

$16.00 Reservoir 22697069
$9.00 Bracket 22707614
$6.50 Cap for the reservoir- 15076936
$14.00 drain hose 22697111
$20.00 hose off the reservoir down 22731576

Total: $350.50







Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:34 PM
pumps are ok , the factory gm or ford will prob last the longest and be the most quiet

the heat exchangers are usually radiators from a vw







Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:51 PM
Quote:

Anything wrong with the ones from zzperformance.com?
never heard a bad thing about zzp products. also the customer service is second to none.

Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:53 PM
Something to keep in mind too guys is that Im running the ebay one and at 14.9psi I get temps as high as 165 on a 70ish degree day, so if you plan on going much past the stock pulley a bigger heat exchanger is probablt needed.



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:56 PM
how big a heat exchanger can be fit behind the stock bumper?



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Monday, July 03, 2006 2:58 PM
I was going to have one made by the guy that sells them on ebay 30x8x3 for 250, but I may see if I can make one of the ZZP ones work.



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:15 AM
The one thing I cannot find in any of the Ebay posts, or ZZ perfromance for that matter is fins per inch. As o4Blackfore has made not he is having issues, part of that is going to be the efficiency of the cooler, and part of that is the amount of air flowing through the cooler.

Everyone is adding additional thickness to the cooling system on the car, but is not taking into consideration that they are using the same stock fan to pull air through. You have to get to about 60-70 MPH before you get true ram air cooling on a car that is efficient to dissipate the heat. This fan was correct for a stock eco making 140 HP, with the running of the AC occassionally. Now we are adding a thick hot intercooler in front of it, blocking the section where a large portion of the air comes thorugh, and not increasing the pulling effort of the fan with a larger or more efficient fan. You are also adding a big hot piece to the front of the engine bay (SC unit itself) as well making everything warmer as well.

One of the things to consider prior to bumping up to a bigger intercooler is making the system "right" again. I am still looking into using the Malibu dual fan system on my car prior to intercooling the car so that way I have better cooling for the entire system prior to loading more on. You need to look at making evertyhing work well together prior to making it better, it sounds like the first problem is becoming paramount, and in order to make it better you think bgger will fix it.

I don't know what size heat exchanger Airtonics is using, haven't crawled under the car to look, but I am pretty sure it is the 27X7 which means if his works (and we all know it does) then why isn't yours working as well?




Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:20 AM
Im running a heatexchanger from a new model mustang cobra and its working out great!!!!



its 22x9 and is about a 3" thick core.






Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:25 AM
With the hoses listed from GM, are any other hoses needed? I thought you had to do atleast some custom plumbing, and not sure where the hoses mentioned go.
Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 1:04 PM
Marchi1 wrote:I don't know what size heat exchanger Airtonics is using, haven't crawled under the car to look, but I am pretty sure it is the 27X7 which means if his works (and we all know it does) then why isn't yours working as well?


How do you know airtonics's cooling setup worked well ? Has he posted numbers ?



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:12 PM
Also i dont have ac so no ac condenser in front of the radiator should allow more air to get to the oem radiator.






Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:55 PM
Ive yet to see anyone else post up IATs proving that their system is running "great." Also, my OEM cooling system has yet to get over 183 with me beating on it and high 14 psi in 80+ days. The highest Ive seen it was 191 in the city, stop and go for 20 mins straight with the A/C on, it was 84 that day. I dont think adding a fan would hurt but its not the solution to the high IATs Im getting. Oh yeah and fins per inch on my eBay heat exchanger are 15 or 16, I think it was Fluidyne that advertises 16 per inch.



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Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:15 PM
ill get some numbers up







Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:56 PM
Wait, call me a noob, but is a heat exchanger the same as a radiator? I was under the impression they were different things.



Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:11 PM
basicly they are exactly the same






Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:20 PM
They are just cooling down two different things, one is for the engine, the other is for the supercharger per-say.



Re: Finding a heat exchanger
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:40 PM
Oh okay, thanks.



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