Well idk what the problem is as of now, was getting on the highway NOT IN BOOST chillin doin like 60 go to shift to 5th, put the clutch in and the motor shut off.. weird I thought let the clutch out to start the motor clutch screamed as it grinded against the flywheel and pressure plate.

No Booms, no bangs, no clouds of smoke, no puddles of oil, no loud noises nothing

Right now we cant get the car to roll in gear at all just rocks back and forth like its an automatic. All the plugs are fine I see no damaged pistons when I look in the motor.

I swapped between 2 ignitions no change, when I try and start all I hear is a clunk like the starter hits the flywheel but can't turn it..

We have three hypothesis

1. Flywheel bent/cracked
2. Clutch and/or pressure plate went (although from the little look I took everything looks ok
3. Engine seized

Engine may have seized from the powder coated parts I put on, there was metal sand falling out of the valve cover, I called the place they said rinse it once or twice and I will be ok. I let the valve cover soak in Dawn and water after rinsing it 4 or 5 times, then rinsed it after it sat 3 or 4 more times. That is my only idea.

Dipstick shows a good level of oil but no swirls in the oil or anything, haven't drained it yet though.

At this point I cannot even look at it, I flipped and ripped off a sideskirt and through a ratchet and socket into my hood. idk whats going on, but if the motor is gone QBE will come back stronger then ever



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sorry to hear it man......i knew those shavings could be bad.....if u need help with the motor or what not im good for tools and an extra set of hands....let me know

weird shizz phil... idk what to say

ha i knew my lin seed oil that i put in your gas tank would ruin your motor!!!!!

j/k trying to lightn the situlation up.......sorry to hear your loss but if the engine has in fact breathed it's last breath i can't wait to see to new and improved engine




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hmm sorry to hear, but it doesn't SOUND like anything major, but i'm anxious to find out.



Blew it up, build numbers coming soon

put the car in neutral try to spin the crankshaft pulley back and forth.

Project Ecofire wrote:put the car in neutral try to spin the crankshaft pulley back and forth.

tried.... Crank pulley DOES not spin with all my strength



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QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:

Project Ecofire wrote:put the car in neutral try to spin the crankshaft pulley back and forth.

tried.... Crank pulley DOES not spin with all my strength

yea sounds like it something binding the flywheel, is there an inspection hole on getrags if so check there, maybe a loose flywheel bolt. i would think if it siezed up it would of broke or bent a rod out the side of the block.

We cant see much through the inspection hole because the car isnt on level gound so we can jack it up well. and I am one person my helper left so i cannot push it myself. But he said he didnt see anything wrong at the time. The clutch, clutch pedal are in working order



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either something with flywheel or ur motor seized up from something...... Do u know if u lost oil pressure at all?

Sorry to here about your problems Phil, i hope you find the cause of your problem. Pulling off the starter at least to look at what you can see of the flywheel might be a simple next step.

On a side note, the very post i read before i clicked on this one had this in it, lol.

QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:

Airtonics wrote:

QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:what the HELL are you people doing WRONG!!!! I run my car at 10 psi and whoop the ever loving SH!T out of it DAY IN and DAY OUT and never a hick up... WOW!!!


I think you people cant drive and continously smack the limiter or something!

Your day will come...

the only day thats coming is the day I pull the motor in full working order to swap in the built one I am working on...

Sorry man, i just couldn't resist.



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what type of flywheel you have? full aluminum??


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bad starter ground maybe. just a thought.
good luck man.

ge_forcez22 wrote:what type of flywheel you have? full aluminum??

Spec Stage 3 Clutch, Spec Aluminum Flywheel

When I turn the key I ehar a loud clunk like the starter is hitting the flywheel but can't turn it



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yeah I was debating weather to say what skillz did. I swear that is karma at its best.

ethier way sorry to hear man.


"Kick azz is my boost hero!!! "

I know this is a totally different engine, but that's what happened to my RX-7, except i can start it, but even in neutral it won't roll or anything, but i know for sure it's my tranny, the only posible thing i can think of is it's something against the flywheel, you did say you heard a screech.....so that's prolly exactly what it is....


NEW SIG COMING SOON FOR 07'!!!

yeah it screeched when I tried to like compression start it



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Before you guys go and shoot at QBE, he said he was "NOT IN BOOST".

Last time I checked these were not direct parts of a turbo system..
1. Flywheel bent/cracked
2. Clutch and/or pressure plate went (although from the little look I took everything looks ok
3. Engine seized

Therefore, this could have happened on a naturally aspirated motor. All of those possibilities are not necessarily a result of the boost.

(This was to argue Skilz post.)
Basically, I'm defending QBE and asking everyone else to back off.

Forgot to add..

QBE, when you figure out what it is, make sure you let us know. I hope it goes well for you.

Thanks man for defending me, but I would like to keep this post civil, I did act arrogant and in someways deserve a shot to the arm.

This motor going is NOT a result of the turbo system that I know for sure, if the motor is seized I know why and well if the flywheel or clutch or something is gone I also know why



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That sucks phil. At least you have all weekend to tear it apart and find out whats wrong. Good luck bud

if your dead how are you posting? Sorry about your luck man.




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from what qbe says does not sound like a broken engine, he said everything was fine then when he pushed the clutch in bam some thing killed the motor. I going to say something related to the flywheel clutch area, just pull the tranny and check it out. again there was No Booms, no bangs, no clouds of smoke, no puddles of oil, no loud noises nothing

if the clutch fuctions enough that you can push the pedal down and roll the car , and not hear any odd noises

then 90% the clutch and trans are fine , the noise you heard woulda been inside the motor

and 90 % you tossed a rod , or timing chain , something internal in the motor


pull the cam cover and drain the oil


a sucks to hear about the problems

i had the timing gear in my elcamino go 1 day , and the motor just stoped , like i shut it off , but it still cranked cause the chain was still on the gear , just no teeth on the gear