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After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:19 PM
Well here it is guys and some people are gonna like this.
Before I even go on I will say by no means do I condone like going over speed limint or anything.

Now that is said, to go on to what happened.
Today I was driving on the interstate in my Turbo Eco 2002 to be particular in the case someone don't know me and what I got, and doing about 70mph I SHUT OFF THE CAR!!

Before I go on I have to recap what happened so that you guys know WHY I did this.

Well I got this Wideband(Innovate) 2 months ago and messed up 2 sensors, the 1st time cause of lead this time I don't know why. It shows E 4 so what I have inquired it is suppose to be a bad connection but every about 7 times or so you turn off the car and you turn it on you get it to read again.
So I am driving and randomly turning off the car and starting it to kick on the WB. Funny ah?? Well I was bored.

Another thing, I turned the fuel pressure on my 650cc from like 40 to like 25 psi and I wanna see weather the 25 psi and boost refference on the FPR and AFC positived out can take care of my 19-21 psi.
Which it didn't happen so DON'T DO IT GUYS. 20+ psi needs a lot of fuel. I was getting like 18:1 A/F. Ouch!!!

Now to go back to the story here is the interesting part.
I pick up my girlfriend and we are both on the interstate I am doing about 70mph, when I turn off the car and pop the clutch to get it to start itself.

For some that don't understand the concept.

Your starter hits the flywheel which is bolted to the crank to start the motor.
Well if you are driving, you push in the clutch and leave it in proper gear (if you are doing 70 mph you are in 5th or 4th).You turn the key off and shut off the motor while chassis is moving, turn the key in ON position but don't crank the starter, but simply lift the foot off the clutch and the motor will start again.

What you are doing simply is, with the clutch pedal being pushed in the flywheel and PP is disengaged from the tranny. Now the wheels are still spinning and so is the clutch disk on the main shaft, so you let the clutch out the throw out bearing pushes on the PP it squeezes the disk on the flywheel that is bolted on to the crank and the MOTOR STARTS!!

LOL I don't know any simpler way of explaining this.

Well I did this and kept on driving so I am doing about 80 mph now, about 3000 rpmk in 5th and my girl says. ""You are not going 40mph, are you??""
I looked at the speedo and it is showing 1/2 of what I am really doing.
Now the 1st thing on my mind was weather I still have the governor or not at 108 mph which would be 54mph now, well being at 25 psi of fuel pressure I couldn't hit it without leaning out bad to find out.

However, I got to full stop speedo went to 0mph and it started all OK again.
Well dropped the girl off and got back on the interstate and tried it at anything lower than about 70 mph and it wouldn't do it but at 70+ the second time it was showing about 22-23 mph which is about a 1/3 of what I was doing.

I thought it was hilarious.

So this is NOT a way to describe how to disable the governor, I don't even know weather it will do it or not, I am simply asking if it has ever happened to ANYONE or am I THE ONLY ONE that shuts off the car and starts it back up doing 70.

I think the VSS gets triggered with the number of pulses.
I wish Todd (Protomec) or someone technical would chime in to explain why is this happening.

Well that's it.
BTW, sorry for long post, after all these years I thought I knew everything about my car !!! lol


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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:28 PM
haha i dont know but that sounds funny...you dont still have a speed limiter, do you?



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:41 PM
Yes I do it stops me from doing stupid things, and I know how to get around it form the track.
Man it saved me from the ticket so many times just cause I don't race up to like 70-80 mph anymore but like 120 so if I cop pulls you over you are done.



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:25 PM
I have started my car while drivinh at higher speeds. never had this happen. Wondering if your VSS is starting to go.



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:39 PM
i turn my car on and off at high @$$ speeds, not with the clutch though, im automatic... but i just have it in neutral and turn the key on and off, and i have never had anything weird like this happen....

funny...



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:33 PM
just curious, why would you do this?



Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:31 PM
I thought I explained all this.
To try to get the Wideband to work it seems like it starts working every 7-8 times the ignition goes on and off.

John it has to be like I said at 70 mph or so, down lower it just goes back.
And don't start it back with a key, just give it on position and start it with letting off the clutch pedal.



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Friday, August 18, 2006 12:51 AM
get a new wide band




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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Friday, August 18, 2006 7:34 AM
SunCavi_L61T3/T04E wrote:I thought I explained all this.
To try to get the Wideband to work it seems like it starts working every 7-8 times the ignition goes on and off.

John it has to be like I said at 70 mph or so, down lower it just goes back.
And don't start it back with a key, just give it on position and start it with letting off the clutch pedal.


I have done it just as you had with the clutch to start the car. I'm thinking either VSS is messing up, or the Cluster is sticking. Interesting to hear.



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Friday, August 18, 2006 2:38 PM
maybe your speedo needle is getting lazy J/K.........



Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Friday, August 18, 2006 3:17 PM
Now it is stuck on 20 mph and it won't go down, but it goes past 110mph.
I am not really going that fast.



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Re: After 7 YEARS still MYSTERIES!!!!
Friday, August 18, 2006 5:44 PM
shouldnt you be working on soemthing Jasmin?






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