I don't plan to boost for a while, but if and when I do, I will probably have a shop do the piping. What I want to know is what you guys are using for piping material. I am only looking for 300-350 whp in a street motor from 8-12 psi. I would assume aluminum with silicone couplers and T-clamps could easily take as much as 25psi, but I wanted to be sure. Is there a rule of thumb for a certain psi where steel pipes or 14 guage or thicker aluminum would be necessary? Thanks.
Most aluminum charge pipes are usually 16 guage walls, right?
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Aluminum rusts over time, and genereally doesn't look as nice. Stainless isn't overly expensive, I say go stainless for sure.
^^^ someone that failed his science classes in school
aluminum wont rust
steel rusts
wow.
99 Turbo Sunfire GT | Ram 2500 | International Rollback | Mr Hanky the Suburban
Well, technically aluminum will oxidize, but not to the extent that it will rust like steel...
Anyways...
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Every aluminum exhaust or charge pipes I've seen over time have looked horrible I can't say the same for stainless. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats generally what I've seen.
Every turbo setup I've worked on has also used stainless, granted i don't know a ton about science or what rusts or oxodizes, I had always thought this was the reason,so if I'm wrong correct me. I'm not one of those douche bags that can't admit I'm wrong.If I am, I am, so be it.
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you are thinking of" ALUMINISED STEEL"....thats what is used for exhausts.....
u've been corrected
unless you plan on running threw your engine bay with them... just go get some nice 2.5" I.D Aluminized steel ("J" or "U" bends) from your local exhaust shop and cut them all up to fit... ALOT! more durable then your aluminum peices and cheaper too and just either do a proper painting of them or powdercoat them if you really want... and if you have them matching perfectly (or close enough) to a flush fit with one another when putting the couplings on that will hold more psi then your car will ever hold...
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Thanks Josh...Being an auto, though I don't have many other choices as far as routing the pipes except through the engine bay...Oh well, I will do measuring when I actually get to the point of the install, to try and avoid that. Thanks.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Slammed (1.8 dub) wrote:Every aluminum exhaust or charge pipes I've seen over time have looked horrible I can't say the same for stainless. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats generally what I've seen.
Every turbo setup I've worked on has also used stainless, granted i don't know a ton about science or what rusts or oxodizes, I had always thought this was the reason,so if I'm wrong correct me. I'm not one of those douche bags that can't admit I'm wrong.If I am, I am, so be it.
aluminum tubing , and aluminized steel exhaust tubing are 2 complete different things
your mixing the 2
aluminum tubing is very light weight , and not good to use for exhaust , it wont hold that much heat
aluminized steel tubing , is heavy , and will with stand alot of heat
aluminum tubing is ok for intercooler piping , and will help disapate some heat
i wouldnt use the exhaust tubing since its usually pretty heavy
OK I must've been thinking of aluminized steel. My bad
I have aluminum, and its on an auto, only the charge pipe going to the TB is in the engine bay.
Go with aluminum, stays VERY cool, accualy runs RIGHT NEXT to my downpipe almost touching and still dosent get hot when running.
SpyderWizard wrote:I have aluminum, and its on an auto, only the charge pipe going to the TB is in the engine bay.
Go with aluminum, stays VERY cool, accualy runs RIGHT NEXT to my downpipe almost touching and still dosent get hot when running.
A 2.2L OHV is easier because you have the exhaust in front of the motor whereas the Quad/ TC motors are in the back... There isn't even enough room to remove that thin black water neck that connects to the water pump without taking off the trans mount connected to the motor.
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So it sounds like the rest of you feel aluminum is plenty strong enough to hold under low boost (below 15 psi / 1 bar).
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Aluminium charge pipes will hold well past any level of boost we can run on our cars. Think about it like this .... fire exstingishers, scuba tanks, nos bottles amd compressed gas all come in aluminium tanks. I know the walls are way thinking but the psi are way higher also.
Aluminium charge pipes will act as an intercooler ..... providing the abiante temp around the pipes is lower then the temp of the air in the pipes.
Aluminum will hold whatever you throw at it. Just make sure you can't bend the piping with one hand
. I've seen a few of those ebay kits that use thin thin aluminum sections.
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
if you want to keep your aluminum looking nice, get it annodized.
-Chris
