yeah ok i read alot on here about the ecotec boost levels and about the people blowing there sh*t up and so on. Well my kit is going to be here this week or next and i gues it set for 8. I also ready on someones message that 9 out of 10 ecotecs say that kit is the best way to blow up. so lets talk some more whats up am i save or not. do not go and talk about all the internal stuff and dont say maybe. can i run at 8 or do i need to set it down a hair. Im willing to buy connecting rods. do i need to worry about that. i was thinking i would buy connecting rods and turn the boost up some more. So yall let me kno what up
owner of 2002 ls sport cavalier and 2006 3.8 mivec eclipse
Why did you listen to the idiot who posted that 9 out 10 ecotecs....... Anyway go back and reread that post. I do not see any proof that anyone has blown up using the hahn kit just as it comes.
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There isn't a case of a single person blowing up their Ecotec by leaving the HRC kit as it comes. Matt is just an opinionated ass who said something he had no right to say in the way he did.
The fact is that most Ecotecs that have blown HAVE had the HRC kit on them because, well, it's the best kit out there and gives us enough confidence to push the limits with it. We know we are risking blowing @!#$ up by upping the boost and we accept that.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
Idiot huh? Im not the one running 110psi of fuel pressure
No right? Last time I checked stating facts wasnt against the rules.
The fuel system is a piece of @!#$ as it comes from Hahn and its almost as laughable as the RSM "reflash"
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Rodimus Prime wrote:Idiot huh? Im not the one running 110psi of fuel pressure
No right? Last time I checked stating facts wasnt against the rules.
The fuel system is a piece of @!#$ as it comes from Hahn and its almost as laughable as the RSM "reflash"
I said you had no right TO SAY IT LIKE YOU DID. For an application trying to make lots of power the FMU setup is not optimal but it is fine for people just putting a turbo on their car for a little more power. Also as I said in response to you before, do you really think people who are barely able to afford the Stage 2 kit AS IS are going to pay another $1000-$1500 for the Portfueler? And do you really think that everyone buying the kit NEEDS anything more than the FMU setup? Just because it isn't a PERFECT SOLUTION does not mean it doesn't have it's purpose.
Oh and comparing the HRC kit to YOUR RSM kit? Come on now...at least HRC doesn't lie and tell you your getting stuff your not. Oh yeah...and HRC actually tests their products too. Oh and Bill actually knows what he's doing too...again unlike RSM. Oh and last time I checked you didn't have to spend thousands of dollars above the cost of the HRC kit to make it work without any issues.
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I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
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The fact is that most Ecotecs that have blown HAVE had the HRC kit on them because, well, it's the best kit out there and gives us enough confidence to push the limits with it. We know we are risking blowing @!#$ up by upping the boost and we accept that.
lol rhyne its pretty much the only kit for the ecotec
so yeah theres gonna be a decent amoutn since hahn is really the only place that makes a kit for the eco
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yeah ok i read alot on here about the ecotec boost levels and about the people blowing there sh*t up and so on. Well my kit is going to be here this week or next and i gues it set for 8. I also ready on someones message that 9 out of 10 ecotecs say that kit is the best way to blow up. so lets talk some more whats up am i save or not. do not go and talk about all the internal stuff and dont say maybe. can i run at 8 or do i need to set it down a hair. Im willing to buy connecting rods. do i need to worry about that. i was thinking i would buy connecting rods and turn the boost up some more. So yall let me kno what up
dude u need to search around more... most people just dont stop at 8psi... and half the poeple dont tune.
besides an ecotec on 15psi on stock internals is around double the hp its rated it. u really dont expect stock parts to make that kind of power and last long do u.
short answer.. a hahn kit on 8psi with a stock motor will be fine. u wont need to upgrade internals.. but i promise you.. after about 3-4 months... boost controllers are gonna start looking good and its gonna go from there.
hypsy blew his motor after a year on 15psi. i blew mine after a year on 12. but the last 2-3 weeks before it blew, i had it up around 18psi and sometimes 20. with no tune. (was almost done building my new motor so i had fun)
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Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Idiot huh? Im not the one running 110psi of fuel pressure
No right? Last time I checked stating facts wasnt against the rules.
The fuel system is a piece of @!#$ as it comes from Hahn and its almost as laughable as the RSM "reflash"
I said you had no right TO SAY IT LIKE YOU DID. For an application trying to make lots of power the FMU setup is not optimal but it is fine for people just putting a turbo on their car for a little more power. Also as I said in response to you before, do you really think people who are barely able to afford the Stage 2 kit AS IS are going to pay another $1000-$1500 for the Portfueler? And do you really think that everyone buying the kit NEEDS anything more than the FMU setup? Just because it isn't a PERFECT SOLUTION does not mean it doesn't have it's purpose.
Oh and comparing the HRC kit to YOUR RSM kit? Come on now...at least HRC doesn't lie and tell you your getting stuff your not. Oh yeah...and HRC actually tests their products too. Oh and Bill actually knows what he's doing too...again unlike RSM. Oh and last time I checked you didn't have to spend thousands of dollars above the cost of the HRC kit to make it work without any issues.
Relax, Rodimus is just mad his s/c leaked all over the place , and never ran good
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Just let him rant and go on ...
JerseyKid (Boosted&JDM) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Idiot huh? Im not the one running 110psi of fuel pressure
No right? Last time I checked stating facts wasnt against the rules.
The fuel system is a piece of @!#$ as it comes from Hahn and its almost as laughable as the RSM "reflash"
I said you had no right TO SAY IT LIKE YOU DID. For an application trying to make lots of power the FMU setup is not optimal but it is fine for people just putting a turbo on their car for a little more power. Also as I said in response to you before, do you really think people who are barely able to afford the Stage 2 kit AS IS are going to pay another $1000-$1500 for the Portfueler? And do you really think that everyone buying the kit NEEDS anything more than the FMU setup? Just because it isn't a PERFECT SOLUTION does not mean it doesn't have it's purpose.
Oh and comparing the HRC kit to YOUR RSM kit? Come on now...at least HRC doesn't lie and tell you your getting stuff your not. Oh yeah...and HRC actually tests their products too. Oh and Bill actually knows what he's doing too...again unlike RSM. Oh and last time I checked you didn't have to spend thousands of dollars above the cost of the HRC kit to make it work without any issues.
Relax, Rodimus is just mad his s/c leaked all over the place , and never ran good .
Just let him rant and go on ...
I think that's exactly what it is. And now that he has a Cobalt, or wants one whichever the case is, he feels he can insult every company that doesn't do things 100% the way he thinks it should be done.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
2 cases of HRC Stage 2 kits blowing ecotecs on preset levels around here...
Matt Griffon and His friend....
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They never, not one time, pushed the boost past 8 PSI?
How many miles? What kind of mantenance routine? How many miles?
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
matt had like 3000 miles on his and had it at 10 psi to race me and turned it down afterwards.... the other kid just bolted it on and it went a month later but that could have been something else, it was a 98z body with an 02 ecotec motor in it...
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QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:matt had like 3000 miles on his and had it at 10 psi to race me and turned it down afterwards.... the other kid just bolted it on and it went a month later but that could have been something else, it was a 98z body with an 02 ecotec motor in it...
Well then neither one of those 2 fit the arguement so why the hell would you post them? Your trying to make Matt look right here in one post while proving him wrong again in your next. It's amazing.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
QBE,
if you are refering to matt w/ yellow 02 a.k.a. yellowfever02, i had talked to who installed the turbo kit because i was tring to contact him. he told me the matt had totalled the car. i saw that car in person on the dyno make 215 hp @ 7.5 psi he had it tuned down so it was at a safe level. if matt altered the boost level after the fact that has nothing to do with HRC's set up.
