well for some time now i've been seeing members post up their m45 and m62 s/c kits and it's just not exciting anymore it seems. i don't know if its because i'm running the m45 kit or what but it just seems to me anyway that boost is so common now adays that it's not that big of a thing anymore. any crits?
still a big mod since alot still cant afford to get 1
i dont mean that as bad as it comes off
it took me alot to get 1
the s/c kits don't add very much power at all so im not surprised it seems that way now.
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Myles wrote:the s/c kits don't add very much power at all so im not surprised it seems that way now.
how don't they add that much power? they are a great mod and give you about 40hp from just swapping them on and you can gain horsepower easily with a pulley change and tune. hell i went from 15.9 stock to a 14.9 with the stock charger before my rebuild with no other mods, thats pretty decent for only 2k i think.
i went from a 16.0 to 14.3 in the 1/4
As the cost of the vehicle decreases, the more money people have to invest into said vehicle. That could be why you might feel that your car is mediocre compared to others (if that is how you feel).
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[quote=97trd(???™)]i went from a 16.0 to 14.3 in the 1/4
i'm talkin bone stock motor other than the charger, no intake, no bored t/b, nothing.
i had header back , all 2 1/4" , intake , 59mm tb
in the right conditions i coulda gotten 13's from it
not bad for a auto trans
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boost=crack....always need more....i gaurantee if they make an adapter for the M62 people will get bored with that and start working on the M90.....Superchargers have limits....it blows i kno....thats why most SC guys are movin on to turbo.....just easier to upgrade with great numbers as booosted2point4 and skillz and many others have shwn....Seems like standards for "being fast" go up everyday....now days people are like woopty doo he ran a 14....before u kno it car will be factory 12s....a true tuner will never be fully satisfied by his car.....and when it gets to the point where it beats everything...it gets sold....Tuners will always want Bigger and Better things......and it seems the auto industry does just that.....OK its entirely too late and my brain hurts....and im done...
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It is because all of the new sport compact cars are running in the 14's stock and you have to buy the GM charger just to keep up with them now. It is depressing to throw 2500 into mods in an older car when you can just buy a new one and have the speed, looks and a new warranty. Plus, the people who modify their cars are never really satisfied, you always want to go a little faster. Those are my thoughts.
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I do feel it's lost some luster, but mainly because they are a lot more common anymore. It's sad when the 2.4's w/ the m45 only put down like 165whp stock.
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just remember when u get that boost rock just smoke half of it LMAO.....but one thing i will give to the superchargers is the maintenence issue.....well there arnt any...u put it on and forget about it....turbos always have to worry bout blowing chargepipes and boost leaks and seals OH MY!!....
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Get t-bolt clamps and proper couplers, and you have no worry about leaks. It's all about doing it right the first time with a turbo setup... unfortunately for many - they don't... so there are issues.
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I have a turbo 2.4 and a supercharged 2.4. I actually like the feel of the supercharger better. I think it has alot of untapped potential. There are three key things to getting good power from the M45 and without all three it will not be that impressive. They are having a modified gm reflash, keeping the air cool, and putting even more air in without high intake air temps. Take anyone of those away and it may not be very impressive.
I do not think it is a small mod. I dreamed about the day when I would have the supercharger on my car for 2 yrs. Everyday I am so glad I did it. It is the second best mod I did to my car. (Only second to the remote starter) I would not even a want j-body if it was not boosted. To me having the supercharger was the difference between the car I enjoy driving and one I just drove to get from point A to piont B. My whole goal was not to be the fastest but to have a car as fast as or faster than a cobaltt SS that was exactly how I wanted it for less than the price of a new cobalt SS. So far to me my car has been just that.
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the m45 is definitely a small mod but the m62 adds like 70 wheel horsepower (from about 125 to about 195) on a bone stock car... I wouldn't call that a small mod
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JoeyDaBomb wrote:I do feel it's lost some luster, but mainly because they are a lot more common anymore. It's sad when the 2.4's w/ the m45 only put down like 165whp stock.
thats only some of the guys on here who can't really get outta the 15's for some odd reason and i'm running lower compression (9:1) than they are. It's a hell of a fun mod though, just seems way too common, kinda like srt4's.
i like mine...... but im selling it, no offers to, 1500, with only 5K on it!
but i will let all know how the LSJ maniford works out.......
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. I'll never get rid of it, but then I'm not a big horsepower kind of guy, I just like the whine.
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I've had both a s/c 2.4 and turbo eco. They both have benefits and drawbacks, personally prefer the turbo, but that's just my opinion.
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I've really enjoyed my car so much more since I've added the Eco charger. The car runs very respectful IMO with the charger.
I think what you are failing to see, is the big numbers from the Eco charger...like 300hp kind of number like the Cobalts are pulling.
The lack of big HP shouldn't degrade the mod though...it's not cheap and it does add about 70hp (the eco anyway) and takes a car running high 15s/low 16s to high 13s/low14s!
Once more and more folks start pushing the Eco charger to new hp numbers, I think you'll see more interest and more folks trying to get it!
Not to mention adding a turbo to an Eco is a little easier than it use to be!
I like the charger for the simple fact I bolted it on and added the heat exchanger and a 3.1 pulley and all is good still...very easy to maintain and like I said, it does run fairly nice for a 3,000 pound car!
It's not a beast by any means but it does serve its purpose and I like it!
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?