Hey i did search a little sorry at work, And seen that most people go with the 2.2 eco for the SC my question is why? I just bought a 99 2.4 and Now i'm not sure if i should SC. I know very little about cars, Ask me anything about drywall and I'm your man but cars No lol but my question is, Should I SC my 2.4 and what kind of things do i have to look out for? IS it a simple bolt-on flash car and drive away?

2.4SC=M45
2.2SC=M62













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what the hell is that? LOL

Either way supercharging your car will give you added power. The 2.2 Ecotec has an M62 supercharger kit out there that produces more power than the M45 supercharger kit that is out there for the 2.4L engines.

Since you have a pre-2000 2.4L you would have to read the sticky at the top of the page for all the other parts you would need to get in order to run the M45 on your car. Trust me, once you boost your car, whether it be Turbo or Supercharger, you will instantly love driving your car all over again, and it will keep you wanting more and more and more.


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2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT - Supercharged

In general the 2.4 (no actual engine comparison, just size) is better for a s/c because of the fact that the s/c requires torque to turn. I'd personally go with a turbo, but thats me.


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Viral (Kris) wrote:Either way supercharging your car will give you added power. The 2.2 Ecotec has an M62 supercharger kit out there that produces more power than the M45 supercharger kit that is out there for the 2.4L engines.

Since you have a pre-2000 2.4L you would have to read the sticky at the top of the page for all the other parts you would need to get in order to run the M45 on your car. Trust me, once you boost your car, whether it be Turbo or Supercharger, you will instantly love driving your car all over again, and it will keep you wanting more and more and more.

Really?!

damn now i have to go back in time and loose to all the M62 Ecotec's i beat at the GMSCB....

wish you would have told me that sooner!

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Taetsch Z-24 wrote:

Viral (Kris) wrote:Either way supercharging your car will give you added power. The 2.2 Ecotec has an M62 supercharger kit out there that produces more power than the M45 supercharger kit that is out there for the 2.4L engines.

Since you have a pre-2000 2.4L you would have to read the sticky at the top of the page for all the other parts you would need to get in order to run the M45 on your car. Trust me, once you boost your car, whether it be Turbo or Supercharger, you will instantly love driving your car all over again, and it will keep you wanting more and more and more.

Really?!

damn now i have to go back in time and loose to all the M62 Ecotec's i beat at the GMSCB....

wish you would have told me that sooner!

Chris

LOL you can beat another car that has 100 more hp than you.....he's not talking track times, hes talking bout blower for blower.

Check all the 2.2 ecos on dynos with stock pulleys.....your looking around the ball park of 210-218...

all ld9s are lucky to break 200 stock pulley.

Ben Arbour wrote:what the hell is that? LOL

the answer to your question.. i take it we have lots of reading to do?

K. Vega,Now With Vitamin Boost wrote:

Taetsch Z-24 wrote:

Viral (Kris) wrote:Either way supercharging your car will give you added power. The 2.2 Ecotec has an M62 supercharger kit out there that produces more power than the M45 supercharger kit that is out there for the 2.4L engines.

Since you have a pre-2000 2.4L you would have to read the sticky at the top of the page for all the other parts you would need to get in order to run the M45 on your car. Trust me, once you boost your car, whether it be Turbo or Supercharger, you will instantly love driving your car all over again, and it will keep you wanting more and more and more.

Really?!

damn now i have to go back in time and loose to all the M62 Ecotec's i beat at the GMSCB....

wish you would have told me that sooner!

Chris

LOL you can beat another car that has 100 more hp than you.....he's not talking track times, hes talking bout blower for blower.

Check all the 2.2 ecos on dynos with stock pulleys.....your looking around the ball park of 210-218...

all ld9s are lucky to break 200 stock pulley.

Its OK, just say it,

THE ECO LOST TO A STOCK LD9 WITH A SMALL BLOWER. THAT HAD NO LESS THAN 132k ON IT.




Blower for blower, MP62, Motor for motor, LD9. after that, its how you tune it\drive it.

oh, and i had no problem making over 200 with 4.5 Lbs....

Chris



'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

lol I dont even kno what race your talking bout or the relevance of your race, but its cool you beat it, I'm just stating facts.

now time for you to admit it. Gm reflash for Gm reflash charger for charger ECO > LD9

lol, Not really,

lets see...

2.4 4.5 PSI, M45...200 HP.

2.2 ? psi M62..........200 HP...

no i dont see whats wrong at all..

LOL


AND HAVE YET to see any SINGLE person do over 400 with it. and dont could "race" teams such as Hahn OR GM.

LOOK at the sig i have for what race i was talking about. i beat EVERY car there save ONE 3.8 L67 SUPERCHARGED (thats a MP90 if your counting) and ONE 2.4 LD9 Turbo that had over 400 at the wheels.

with my little bitty m45

then forth went to a turbo LNF... big surprise there hey?



but i really dont care, I dont even have my 02 any more.

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Taetsch Z-24 wrote:lol, Not really,

lets see...

2.4 4.5 PSI, M45...200 HP.

2.2 ? psi M62..........200 HP...

no i dont see whats wrong at all..

LOL


AND HAVE YET to see any SINGLE person do over 400 with it. and dont could "race" teams such as Hahn OR GM.

LOOK at the sig i have for what race i was talking about. i beat EVERY car there save ONE 3.8 L67 SUPERCHARGED (thats a MP90 if your counting) and ONE 2.4 LD9 Turbo that had over 400 at the wheels.

with my little bitty m45

then forth went to a turbo LNF... big surprise there hey?



but i really dont care, I dont even have my 02 any more.

Chris

Theres no way you had ONLY the supercharger installed. You had atleast an exhaust system, hes talking about having nothing but the supercharger. You didn't magically gain 18 more hp (pressure creates a multiplier, 15psi is approx. 2 x (hp), 4.5psi would be about 1.3x(140) = 182).


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^^150hp, my mistake, ups that figure by 3 (so 185hp). The original point was that the eco charger puts out a bit more than the 2.4 does (not necessarily ON the ecotec, the supercharger itself).


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thats why i said, MP62>MP45....

BUT LD9 is greater than the new and hip Eco.

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Taetsch Z-24 wrote:thats why i said, MP62>MP45....

BUT LD9 is greater than the new and hip Eco.

Chris

lol wats your problem we are all jbody lovers and thats that. You like the ld9 i do as well but since i had a stock eco powered vehicle im driving my eco. I honestly think we are a tad bit jealous are we? lol you have such anger towards m62 ecos lol. relax bro....relax.

not really, it comes from working at a dealership and seeing them come in. they seen to be whats "in" for no really reason but its hip, and the easy thing to do.


but like i said, my cars sold, now i need to find a GTO.

then a MP112HH for it.

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

i had a gm s/c 2.4 (well the kit on my 96 z24) I had every bolt on. It was a quick car. i enjoyed it.

I also own a 02 cav with a ecotec.

I been around the 2.4l s/c since day one of it coming out. People where struggling to get into the 14's/low 14's with alot of bolt ons. a few here and there made it. Chris claims a high 13.9 with it with out nitrous.

From what i seen on this forums, the eco kit i have seen quite a few low 14' time slips out there. I think i seen some guy with a auto running low 14's.

My thoughts. The 2.4l s/c is a awesome starter kit. It can be made quick if you mod it correctly( cold air intake, meth injection, big t/b, cams,full exhaust and the other normal stuff plus a good tune.) I rode in chris's car and i was impressed and it revved out to 7k which i thinks helped alot too.

Eco kit- . the potential is there with the intercooler upgrades and the fact the cobalt ss guys have the same thing and you can get stuff from them. BiGGest downfall is you cant hack into the GM s/c program like with the 2.4l kits. I think that is turning alot of people away from really pushing this kit to the max. I think if hp tuners was able to work with the sc kit , we would see alot more of this kit.

Plus too i been reading on a few issues with the eco kit, like minor driveability stuff. With the 2.4l kit only issue was regapping the spark plugs to a smaller gap to get ride of a missfire.

Ideally i would like to s/c the ecotec, we will see.

ya, its funny what a bag of ice does resting on the blower for 30 mins, then running it right away.



HEY i couldn't intercool it!

my one think i would have done diffrent would be to not use stock cams...


Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

2.4L SC LD9...FTW Sorry had to



"If you have no clue what's going on... STFU!"

214whp completly stock exhaust on the stock pulley, no internals and the only bolt on being a 56mm tb and custom cold air intake. Shifteds mail order hpt tuned pcm for the win!



FORGET GIRLS GONE WILD WE HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING GONE WILD!

lol looks like I caused a bit of bull@!#$ here...

I have the 2.4 ld9 with the m45 and I absolutely love it, I was simply stating the facts that the M62 creates more power..

how you drive a car, tune it, and what engine is better had nothing to do with this conversation...

btw, i would love to have a <14.00 pass, but Im still far away from that.


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2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT - Supercharged

EcoTec = God's own personal choice of engine!!!!

If GM hadn't used the Eco for their drag cars, it would just be another POS GM engine to the rest of the tuning world...... But since GM decided to jump into the Import scene (about damn time), they pushed their *New* global engine, IE: EcoTec...... from that day forward the Eco would be the Iconic GM Engine..... no matter what.

The Eco is just now reaching the same performance level of the "POS" Quad 4 from the late '80's....... and thats with more displacement (2.4 Eco) and the all new (well, to GM at least) VVT....

"You mean to tell me this engine has all this technology, 10:1 compression, and only puts out 140hp? WOW, whats wrong with it?" ~ Dirty Dugan, '01 GM bash





SPD RCR Z - '02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT - '04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI - '78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap

The Dirtiest Dugan wrote:
"You mean to tell me this engine has all this technology, 10:1 compression, and only puts out 140hp? WOW, whats wrong with it?" ~ Dirty Dugan, '01 GM bash

LOLOL



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Damn, no retorts?


Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

* i was next to doogen at that time of the " brian posted. good times.


i am on both bandwagons and agree with brian.

I like what lingenfelter did with his eco dragster back in the day. 6 second something 1/4 miles.
The ecotec motors have been dominating the 4 banger drag racing sanctions now for a while. Gm backed or not which is cool to me.