How many people have the Ecotec GM Supercharger Kit? I know it's expensive. Do you like it? Send me a pm or post a reply.
More than a few of us have the Eco SC....I'd do a search and see.....not sure what you are looking for or if you are just wanting some opinions on the set up?
I know there was a thread about this a little bit ago...
My thoughts are a decent set up that is reliable. Out of the box install with the GM reflash. In stock form it produces a nice gain and brings the car to where I think it should have been form the factory.
I have a 3.0 pulley installed on mine as well as an aftermarket heat exhanger....pulls 13 psi out of the set up. Won't say it's super fast but does pretty darn good!
Best thing I did was install the smaller pulley....not just to get the extra psi....but the throttle response is much better and the car drives completely different now than when I was running the stock one.
I'd say if you are looking to get 225hp to about 250hp this is the set up to go for....it's limited though and down the road if you want more, you'll have to go turbo. Anyone would be hard pressed to pull 300hp out of the M62 (my opinion).
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
Its good power, good price, but it is limited and I dont believe that its a complete kit, theres alot of supporting mods you really should have for best power and longevity
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its not expensive, unless money has gone to my head, what they are asking for the kit is simple horsepower
BlueDeuce wrote:More than a few of us have the Eco SC....I'd do a search and see.....not sure what you are looking for or if you are just wanting some opinions on the set up?
I know there was a thread about this a little bit ago...
My thoughts are a decent set up that is reliable. Out of the box install with the GM reflash. In stock form it produces a nice gain and brings the car to where I think it should have been form the factory.
I have a 3.0 pulley installed on mine as well as an aftermarket heat exhanger....pulls 13 psi out of the set up. Won't say it's super fast but does pretty darn good!
Best thing I did was install the smaller pulley....not just to get the extra psi....but the throttle response is much better and the car drives completely different now than when I was running the stock one.
I'd say if you are looking to get 225hp to about 250hp this is the set up to go for....it's limited though and down the road if you want more, you'll have to go turbo. Anyone would be hard pressed to pull 300hp out of the M62 (my opinion).
i agree with everything Deron has said. it definitely makes the car fun to drive and the kit is very reliable. i see 10-11psi on the stock pulley and don't have any complaints. i've had my blower on the car for almost 30,000 miles now.
I just installed a m62 on S1lver N1p's car, not too bad once the ginding and crap is taken care of, kinda expected a bit more out of it.
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Its a blast to drive with the 3.0 pulley on!, Its a great setup if you want great throttle response and a good amount of power, oh yeah, The Wine is great too!!
Mine will be for sale soon if your interested, pm me for more details
03supercharged wrote:Its a blast to drive with the 3.0 pulley on!, Its a great setup if you want great throttle response and a good amount of power, oh yeah, The Wine is great too!!
Mine will be for sale soon if your interested, pm me for more details
So did Chris's, still very unimpressed by the output. The saab turbo kit puts out more power than the gm s/c. Granted the power is much more linear w/ the s/c, it's just not enough for me.
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Skunk wrote:I just installed a m62 on S1lver N1p's car, not too bad once the ginding and crap is taken care of, kinda expected a bit more out of it.
Skunk wrote:03supercharged wrote:Its a blast to drive with the 3.0 pulley on!, Its a great setup if you want great throttle response and a good amount of power, oh yeah, The Wine is great too!!
Mine will be for sale soon if your interested, pm me for more details
So did Chris's, still very unimpressed by the output. The saab turbo kit puts out more power than the gm s/c. Granted the power is much more linear w/ the s/c, it's just not enough for me.
I too was a little disappointed in the M62 out of the box...just seemed there should have been more power there to me....
But, with the 3.0 pulley installed...it's a different car! Made a world of difference! I've never dyno'd my Cavy (plan to soon...hoping)...but there is more power there over the stock pulley...actually more than I thought there'd be...it's a different car!
The Saab kit will produce more power out of the box...but with the 3.0 pulley installed...I'd be willing to bet this (3.0 pulley) lays more hp down!
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
BlueDeuce wrote:Skunk wrote:I just installed a m62 on S1lver N1p's car, not too bad once the ginding and crap is taken care of, kinda expected a bit more out of it.
Skunk wrote:03supercharged wrote:Its a blast to drive with the 3.0 pulley on!, Its a great setup if you want great throttle response and a good amount of power, oh yeah, The Wine is great too!!
Mine will be for sale soon if your interested, pm me for more details
So did Chris's, still very unimpressed by the output. The saab turbo kit puts out more power than the gm s/c. Granted the power is much more linear w/ the s/c, it's just not enough for me.
I too was a little disappointed in the M62 out of the box...just seemed there should have been more power there to me....
But, with the 3.0 pulley installed...it's a different car! Made a world of difference! I've never dyno'd my Cavy (plan to soon...hoping)...but there is more power there over the stock pulley...actually more than I thought there'd be...it's a different car!
The Saab kit will produce more power out of the box...but with the 3.0 pulley installed...I'd be willing to bet this (3.0 pulley) lays more hp down!
mine's 3.1 right now. would love to break the 2's.
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327.6 WHP 333.6 WTQ [10.1 AFR]
the m62 supplied from GM is limited, but there is more potential to this type of blower application than has been explored in the Jbody world. Check out what LSJ people are using - its the same blower stock, but there are twin screw upgrades, blower porting, ect.
300+whp should not be ruled out with the right upgraded blower and tuning (HTV1320)
BlueDeuce wrote:Skunk wrote:I just installed a m62 on S1lver N1p's car, not too bad once the ginding and crap is taken care of, kinda expected a bit more out of it.
Skunk wrote:03supercharged wrote:Its a blast to drive with the 3.0 pulley on!, Its a great setup if you want great throttle response and a good amount of power, oh yeah, The Wine is great too!!
Mine will be for sale soon if your interested, pm me for more details
So did Chris's, still very unimpressed by the output. The saab turbo kit puts out more power than the gm s/c. Granted the power is much more linear w/ the s/c, it's just not enough for me.
I too was a little disappointed in the M62 out of the box...just seemed there should have been more power there to me....
But, with the 3.0 pulley installed...it's a different car! Made a world of difference! I've never dyno'd my Cavy (plan to soon...hoping)...but there is more power there over the stock pulley...actually more than I thought there'd be...it's a different car!
The Saab kit will produce more power out of the box...but with the 3.0 pulley installed...I'd be willing to bet this (3.0 pulley) lays more hp down!
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Smaller pulley is a must!
oldskool wrote:the m62 supplied from GM is limited, but there is more potential to this type of blower application than has been explored in the Jbody world. Check out what LSJ people are using - its the same blower stock, but there are twin screw upgrades, blower porting, ect.
300+whp should not be ruled out with the right upgraded blower and tuning (HTV1320)
What you're not thinking about is the tuning limitations on a J versus a cobalt. Their tunes and WAY more in depth than ours. The GM flash can't be edited, and hpt can only do so much w/ these on a J. You will not see the same kind of power out of a J w/ an M62 that you will outta a C/SS.
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Skunk wrote:oldskool wrote:the m62 supplied from GM is limited, but there is more potential to this type of blower application than has been explored in the Jbody world. Check out what LSJ people are using - its the same blower stock, but there are twin screw upgrades, blower porting, ect.
300+whp should not be ruled out with the right upgraded blower and tuning (HTV1320)
What you're not thinking about is the tuning limitations on a J versus a cobalt. Their tunes and WAY more in depth than ours. The GM flash can't be edited, and hpt can only do so much w/ these on a J. You will not see the same kind of power out of a J w/ an M62 that you will outta a C/SS.
not true, we aren't seeing their power because they have stock bottoms ends and are going much further.
No one on this org is built and supercharged, if my ol buddy Airtonics finishes his build I won't be suprised to see 300+ whp with using the My62.
which is where the cobalts are basically limited at with the m62 as well
i like mine. If how ever your going to have the dealer install buy it from Pace Pontiac and have them install it. I had
to have mine installed and live in queens Ny. And let me tell you i wish i had just drove to Ohio and pay for the motel stay. they charged me retail for the charger 3100 dollars charged me 1000 to install and on top of that charged me tax on both the install and charger. i got raped bad. I like the blower whine and extra 60 horses feel great. On a side note make sure you have a set of decent tires lol
Skunk wrote:oldskool wrote:the m62 supplied from GM is limited, but there is more potential to this type of blower application than has been explored in the Jbody world. Check out what LSJ people are using - its the same blower stock, but there are twin screw upgrades, blower porting, ect.
300+whp should not be ruled out with the right upgraded blower and tuning (HTV1320)
What you're not thinking about is the tuning limitations on a J versus a cobalt. Their tunes and WAY more in depth than ours. The GM flash can't be edited, and hpt can only do so much w/ these on a J. You will not see the same kind of power out of a J w/ an M62 that you will outta a C/SS.
Those who make or who will make the most power out of a s/c eco will not be using the reflash - sorry I thought that went without saying - and that's why i used the phrase "the right ugraded blower and tuning". What I was saying more directly is that there are upgrades to the M62 that comes with the kit that allow for running more boost at at lower IAT's, basically a more efficient blower that fits where the M62 fits. Even with the better OS, the cobalt crew is still limited with the stock hardware...
Of course if a high HP number is the goal, s/c is not the most cost efficient path. some of the upgrades Ive mentioned coupled with tuning software/hardware will put the whole system well in excess of 5k dollars, for which you could have a built eco and a turbo system easily allowing for greater than 300whp.
according to to Gm tuner book it kinda says that with goal of over 250 hp
charger header ,catback, and cold air kit and then gets vague and says about nitrous.
it also says to lower the compresion. 9.1-9.5. but for the life of me why didn't they show how install the nitrous
then the book says to a point. The trans is going to be replaced by 4t65 but yet again no mention of the charger. Also Bates for some reason doesn't want answer questions about any thing but yet there name is in the book.
there are alot of mysterys about the charger. Like installs and how dealer don't want to do it. Also the vague warranty about breakage. yet inspite of all this there i would do it again but would planned it better
Ok, so w/ you guys sayin all that, the hahn turbo makes 223whp at only 8psi, the gm charger along w/ some extras that aren't included in the $3000+ price tag only makes what vega, 198 or something, I don't recall your dyno specifically and that's w/ what 10psi or so, yes I know the efficientcy is different, but they both have pretty much the same price tag and if you're talkin bang for your buck, the turbo wins hands down in this case.
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I made 197 on a mustang dyno 1st off, second off im running very low timing and its on 8 psi. but i paided less than 3000 lol actually way less than 1000 lol
I think the main thing to remember with teh Eco SC is right out of the box....GM reflash....it's realiable! Really nothing more to do other than bolt it on, reflash and you are done!
Now....if you want more power, sure you are going to spend money...no different than a turbo.
I like my SC....actaully, I love it! I waited on teh SC to come out rather than go turbo....why? Reliability! So far, so good.
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
^ that is also what i preeched to people about the m45 s/c kit.
basically it all depends on what your goals are.
I personally am thankful GM came out with s/c kits for both motors.
how loud is the whine from this kit? What can you do to make it louder?
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Pretty loud when you punch it. It will turn heads from far away. I have it connected to my AEM CAI but I had to cut it to make it fit.
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it whines, louder with a smaller pulley but it whines. i took out my aem cai and just rigged up some aluminum piping and used the cone filter from my cai so its pretty much a short ram now
i like it. i hope i didnt screw anything up on it since it got pretty hot yesterday. but yea so far so good, reliability ftw
12.33 @ 111.67 mph [Oct 2009]
Dyno'd on 08/02/09 - Mustang Dyno:
327.6 WHP 333.6 WTQ [10.1 AFR]
