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Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:43 PM
What kind of wheel spin do you guys experience with your Supercharged ECOs?

Right now I am spinning almost all the way through 1st gear, it is grabbing and pulling REAL hard, but the tires and breaking loose. That is with 19x8's on 215/35/19 General eXclaim UHP Z-Rated tires.

I have my other set of 19's w/ 235/35/19 Toyo Proxes T1-S tires, I plan on putting them on this weekend to save seom tread on my show tires.

So far this is what I have done for performance

m62 SuperCharger
3.0 ZZ Performance Modular Pulley
CXRacing Heat exchanger
Custom 3" Warm air intake w/ K&N filter
Bosch Water Pump
4-2-1 Header
Vibrant Hi-Flow Cat
2.5" Vibrant Mandrel Bent Exhaust
Jersey Devil's Eco Spark Plug Boot insert springs

The only reason I am asking this, I am wondering how the guys with lighter wheels get traction if I spin this much with 19's??




Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:01 AM
ease up lead foot

i cant floor it in first otherwise i wont get traction, so i dont really go into boost in first



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Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:44 AM
got an lsd in your trans??

That might help, or just insure you are burning both tires equally.





Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:39 AM
some normal tiers that can give and deflect some would help... a lot......


depending on what rubber you run with, wheel spin should not be that bad.

Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:50 AM
I have a 4spd auto with a B&M shift plus. It spins BOTH tires. I did it once to see if it would and I looked back at 2 equal length marks in my Credit Union parking lot.

Anyway, I'll see if I can get a video to show. I hope that the wider 235/35's will halp a little bit.

However I must say I love the 3.0 pulley.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:56 AM
the 35 series is whats killing you...


i bet you get more spin with that tire, then i do with my GTO even.......when trying to actually take off...



Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:25 AM
Don't get me wrong, IT GOES. I just hear the squeeling sound of the tires and wonder how guys with lighter wheels do it.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:36 AM
James (ROLN19S) (JuicyJ) wrote:Don't get me wrong, IT GOES. I just hear the squeeling sound of the tires and wonder how guys with lighter wheels do it.


Sure it is not the tranny squeeling?



FU Tuning



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:35 AM
The black marks on the pavement and the smell of rubber tell me it is the tires.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:52 AM
ditch the low profile tires....





Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:34 AM
James (ROLN19S) (JuicyJ) wrote:The black marks on the pavement and the smell of rubber tell me it is the tires.


Some of the things you said made me ask. I understand the one in the parking lot. You mentioned that it goes, but you hear the noise. So every time you get on it it goes, leaves black marks, and squeels the tires, and smokes them? If you are smoking the tires everytime then it can't be going to well, and it is your tires. just because they are bigger and heavier does not make them hook better.



FU Tuning




Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:13 PM
THIS ONLY HAPPENS WHEN I AM AT WOT.

I don't drive like that all the time, I was seeing how fast it was wiht my new pulley and noticed that it breaks the wheels loose very easily.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:02 PM
so, get some wheels and tires that actualy help with handling.....

Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:22 PM
i say stay as is......live with some bad traction, and look good doin it.

you can loose the bra though.





Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:31 PM
Function > Form.

Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:56 PM
I ran up against the guy who traded me the 3.0 pulley for my stock pulley, I pulled away from him FAST! He was running the 3.0 pully with a Stock manifold and exhaust. They could not tune his car to run correctly with it, so he traded me.

He has 17's, I pulled away from him very fast.

I can get GREAT traction if I don't slam the gas pedal and lean into it off the start.


I only posted this to see how the guys with 16's, 17" wheels are doing as far as traction. I did not make thread this to start a pissing match. Hell, I'm building a show car. I just wanted some goodies under the hood.

Also Garsnow has a Redline and I know his Stock 17's don't grab very well and there is a WHEEL HOP issue when you launch hard.

The place where we went to get Josh's car tuned is the same guy who Tuned Ben Wenzel's 13sec N/A cavy, he was there when I was there. I got to video his car on the dyno and see what he is putting down to the wheels. VERY impressive.

I told Ben I would wait till he gets back from the Bash before I post his videos of his Dyno pulls and his HP #'s.

His best time so far was a 13.48 @ 104.95 I believe, well he has more HP now. Whoever goes to the Bash this weekend will see Ben run.


John Benham - I only had the Bra on for a road trip to avoid Rock chips, I don't usually have it on.

I need to go take a few pics and post em up of the new pulley and the Removal of the PCM and Cruise Control from under the hood. Looks A LOT nicer under there now.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:00 PM
I have the LS wheels and I have a terrible time with traction. Spin through 1st and spin when I hit 2nd gear


Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:23 PM
All I'll say is. What did you think would happen when your SC'd and you floor it from a stop



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:39 PM
ecotecpower wrote:All I'll say is. What did you think would happen when your SC'd and you floor it from a stop


I didn't know it had enough power to spin the 19's. I was wondering how bad it is for those with smaller wheels and narrow tires.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:54 PM
You said you had a video? Can i see? lol i think seeing a supercharged eco spinning 19's would look badass. Those 19's proboly are not the lightest of rims. im surprised your having such traction problems. id say its gotta be the tires. but if i were you id get a set of some more "track worthy" rims and Drag Radials for when you want to get serious.



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Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Monday, July 28, 2008 3:45 AM
with my 16" stockers squealing and torque steer is a pain(sometimes fun). but the 17s I have on now with some cheap wanli brand tires stick really good! still get a little bit of squeal but not enough to have a noticeable effect on acceleration and the torque steer is vastly improved.




Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Monday, July 28, 2008 3:46 AM
BTW im 2.4 not eco.



Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Monday, July 28, 2008 9:18 AM
I had 19's on my old turbo setup with 225/35/19 and had the same prob. On my new setup i droped to an 18 and got a stickyer tire (MT Sportsmen S/R) 26x8x18. Street traction has improved. And the ride is 1000x better!!!!! . There is enough sidewall to allow for some flex when im into it.....and some cushion over the bumps witch is good because our roads are the @!#$s lol !!!!!



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Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:58 PM
its the 19s...

I kill mine in first every time....



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Re: Wheel Spin with a Supercharged ECO????
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:07 PM
traction? what is that, i have not gotten any with mine



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