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Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:54 PM
So I got to thinking about things, I'm building my 2.4 right now, Coming along well, will put pics up soon.

The twin turbo's been done, I've got an idea for a quad turbo, I know it's insane or just stupid, I did the flow, even running 5-7 on each turbo will produce, 20-28 psi of boost, The engine will take it with the parts I'm putting in, so custom manifold it's just the question of squeezing them all in there and tuning it properly.

Will it work or is it pointless and just expensive?

Fuel management will be an issue, what would it take for injectors 700+cc.

ideas are useful.

another q, roller rocker,lifter and spec'd cam? sounds like an na way to go but....




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Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:59 PM
Put your flame suit on man. Quad turbo on anything but a diesel pulling tractor is quite a waste unless your going for uniquness. Quad turbo, tri turbo, or twin turbo on a car with a single bank is almost pointless. Again, put your flame suit on.
Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:54 PM
I hope this is a joke, Roller rockers and lifters in a 2.4? Have you even looked at the internals in your motor? This is the kinda stuff you want to buy for your car? Just stop everything your doing and read and read some more builds on the org. There are so many write ups on good quality builds, dont waste anymore of your time even looking at your car.


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Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:13 PM
that seems so redundant given that u can prolly throw down 28 psi wiht ONE turbo on our motor.... makes no sense man



Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:39 PM
NoMoreGroceries wrote:Quad turbo, tri turbo, or twin turbo on a car with a single bank is almost pointless


I agree. Sure, twin turbo has been done, and it can be awesome if done right.


With all this money you want to put into extra turbo's, piping and whatnot......why don't you just use that money for a single turbo setup?


If you fab your own kit, bulletproof that bottom end, upgrade the axles and clutch, you could attain 550+ horsepower on that car.....and I guarantee, it'll be way cheaper (and more reliable) with 1 big turbo, than 4.


My method is, the more money you spend on single parts, and the LESS parts you have in total, it's probably going to run better, and be more reliable.



Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:54 PM
Jonathan Lutgen wrote:, even running 5-7 on each turbo will produce, 20-28 psi of boost,


That's not how it works.



Listen F***ers. FASTERTHANAHONDA is a joke because I WORK FOR HONDA. I'll talk @!#$ about Fords to, that doesn't mean I can beat a 12 second mustang.
Re: Is it possible
Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:58 PM
Jonathan Lutgen wrote:I know it's insane or just stupid


well said.





Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 12:32 AM
Ok, so I appreciate the insight.

Here's my goal, I wanna make 900+ horse, Yes I want unique, I don't want the same build everyone else has. What's the point it's then like having time wrapped up in a stock car, when your on the line it all matters, .001 secs of turbo lag can kill ya.

How bout we think outside the box, and give me some ideas on how to attain that kinda hp, I've never seen it done with a 2.4, So instead of putting the idea down, How bout you wrechheads work with me and we figure out a way to get there. I'm trying to avoid N2O, if nessasary to get the gain I want we can talk about it.

Once we figure this out who's coming to the shop and drinkin some beer and getting this done?


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Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 1:24 AM
Jonathan Lutgen wrote:Ok, so I appreciate the insight.

Here's my goal, I wanna make 900+ horse, Yes I want unique, I don't want the same build everyone else has. What's the point it's then like having time wrapped up in a stock car, when your on the line it all matters, .001 secs of turbo lag can kill ya.

How bout we think outside the box, and give me some ideas on how to attain that kinda hp, I've never seen it done with a 2.4, So instead of putting the idea down, How bout you wrechheads work with me and we figure out a way to get there. I'm trying to avoid N2O, if nessasary to get the gain I want we can talk about it.

Once we figure this out who's coming to the shop and drinkin some beer and getting this done?


Dreams and reality are two different things. I suggest you get a little more in touch with the latter.





Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 1:49 AM
I suggest you, 1.) clean up your shop 2.) get a hoist 3.) change your attitude 4.) offer help not bs 5.) True tuner=max hp right build no matter what

Why do you bother posting replies anyway, I don't get it, I'm pretty sure I said something like discuss how I can make it happen, Not for a waste of time.

If you want to put your 2 cents in on a turbo some pistons, hell even a voltage reg, I'll listen.

Don't waste my time, with nonsense that helps nothing.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when I finish this car and dyno it and get the hp I'm looking for and slap the dyno results on this thread




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Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 2:11 AM
Ya know I apologize bud that was rude, but seriously were on here to help eachother, I've got a build in mind, target horsepower, parts lined up, parts to build drawn out, I just want some good solid ideas, Maybe I missed something, Maybe i had a bad calculation, 4 turbos would be bad ass though, I scrubbed that idea though.

I'm telling ya, start thinking outside the box, if a effin ricer can turn 1300 horse on a 2.0 I'm pretty sure larger displacement, we can get more, with some work, but for now lets get it in gear, I need to figure out my gearing too, so I can send my tranny out to jasper and get it built.

I found all the suspension and drivetrain I'm gonna need.

I still need an opinion on pipe size to use, I want to go 3" for good flow but I don't want to take away from the turbo back pressure, ideas on this.....

Now is anyone in, on figuring out some parts and making this happen?


squirlly bud, I'm asking you nicely, take your shoes off when you come into my house, if that doesn't make sense, it means use some manners, or HELP.


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I'm speedin, speedin, I'm speedin

Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 2:16 AM
Jonathan Lutgen wrote:I suggest you, 1.) clean up your shop 2.) get a hoist 3.) change your attitude 4.) offer help not bs 5.) True tuner=max hp right build no matter what

Why do you bother posting replies anyway, I don't get it, I'm pretty sure I said something like discuss how I can make it happen, Not for a waste of time.

If you want to put your 2 cents in on a turbo some pistons, hell even a voltage reg, I'll listen.

Don't waste my time, with nonsense that helps nothing.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when I finish this car and dyno it and get the hp I'm looking for and slap the dyno results on this thread

you should probably take your own advice (refer to bolded section)

lets take a look at what you're up to....
mod list wrote:
Engine: 2.4 DOHC

MODIFICATIONS

Audio:

* dvd
* single cadence 12
* cadence 6x9s
* cadence 6"'s
* tweeters
* capacitor amp- 5000w mono
* 1000 for the highs

Future:

* Turbo
* Roller Rocker
* Roller lifters
* Roller cams thinking a torquer

* .030 bore
* not sure on what pistons and pushrods yet
* Crank
* Bearings
* Blueprint/balance
* stainless or polished heads
* diff ignition system
* stand alone fuel management
* t4
* body repair
* racing seats
* roll cage
* interior not that important
* more conserned with whp
* and torque
* need to get a tranny built too


so you have all this audio junk in your car, but you're not concerned with your interior?

also, are you building a V8 or a 2.4?roller cams, rolller rockers and pushrods??
whats a t4? terminator 4?
your car doesn't have pushrods.. half the @!#$ you listed is for V8s.. get a clue.
t4 is a flange style... says nothing about the turbo. what size compressor? turbine? what trim? a/r?

c'mon man.. you're asking something, everyone who is clearly more knowledgeable is going to tell you its stupid. listen to what we're saying, don't fall into the typical noob pattern.
get a book called 'maximum boost' by corky bell, its a great book to get the ground work for a successful and FUNCTIONAL turbo system.. not some quad turbo 4 cylinder nonsense.


before you try think of some other (what you think is) wise crack post, shut up and go learn something, you're only making yourself look like a moron.







Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 3:21 AM
what could be a better setup? 1 turbo for eac cylinder!!!
he deff broke 300 with this setup!!!!!!!! do it, please!

skrew the haterz!
it would rape!!!


if you do start this, please post pics, thankyou.
would deff like to see this beast built!
and dotn forget the dyno sheets!
wanna see this thing in action!











Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 3:46 AM
Holy Effff boys, lay off this guy, he may actually have something here. I'm personally more into the spray. But I wanna know if this is gonna work.

I'm actually quite interested in this "idea"

How do you plan on building the manifold?

your not gonna get your figure of 28 or w/e it was, your still going to have 5-7 per cyl, being it's independent. I'm not sure bud, ask the other guys but I'm pretty sure that's how it's gonna work, Your def making less work with this idea than a single turbo. so that would tell me it would create some power and more flow. were's 607 on this one?

I think your gonna have a waste in turbos, but it def could work. I'm not gonna say no, I want pics of w/e you drew out. Your gonna be deep in this project.

another thing if you did a 4 turbo setup, were are you going to put them? I read the other day this thing for a remote turbo setup, I dont think it works or is going to create the power you want, but giving this build every option to work, instead of being the normal tuner and telling you your an idiot. Lets give it a shot. I'm gonna do some research.

^
hey u, I need to talk to you

I've seen a ld9 dyno'd at 820 so I don't see why you couldn't get 900. god I can't even think right now, am I that tired I'm actually giving this idea a chance?



My heads spinning laughing, now about the real deal.

Full tube-frame chassis with integral roll cage
Full carbon-fiber z24 body
Front-wheel-drive
ld9 race engine
1231hp @ 9200rpm
2.4L Inline 4 cylinder
Turbo-charged (Precision Turbo) and intercooled
3 injectors per cylinder with FAST XFI Engine Management System
Methanol fuel
Xtrac race transmission with ACE slipper clutch

Internals ask nice and I may tell
Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 3:50 AM
just read his other post, he's really trying here and he apologizes to you, well kinda, and you rip him apart like that, that's kinda @!#$ty dude.


Someone help this poor bastard.

If you want some spray or q's on spray I can help ya.
Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 4:33 AM
ONE SET OF LETTERS WTF

THANKS FOR RUNNING DEFENSE GUY, BUT I CAN HOLD MY OWN.

Paul, are you gonna help me get this thing kicked off I've spent the last 24 hours looking at websights and trying to figure stuff out. I watched ur you tube vids, Sikk Man,

so heres the issues

picking engine mods

getting final drive and gearing in the trans right




Fast life, I live, big cars, big cribs, speedin
I'm speedin, I can't stop it's all I know
From a youngin I was taught get doe
I'm speedin, speedin, I'm speedin
Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 5:39 AM





Wow, so you make two accounts to make it look like you actually have a legitimate idea and don't look like a fool. At least put a different birthday in. Big fail.





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Re: Is it possible
Monday, December 14, 2009 5:48 AM
Changing your name to JTCAVY isn't going to hide the fact you have two accounts.



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