If I can get my hands on a M62 or M90 or something, if I were to build my own intake manifold out of mild steel, would it be a bad idea other than it may be heavier than an aluminum one? I have a TIG machine but I can only do steel with it. Its old (circa 1983)
it would retain heat more than aluminum obviously. if u do make it out of steel look into being able to adapt an efficiant coller to/with it.
mike
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Do it and use a phenolic spacer to dissipate the heat going from the steel into the blower.
If you're going to make a custom intake manifold might as well have it be two parts so you can use an air to air intercooler.
You said your welder was a tig right? Does it have an a/c setting and do you have argon? if yes to both you can weld aluminum.
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Should be able to weld stainless with a DC machine. I would make it out of that!
It does not have any AC options on it what so ever. Its strictly a DC machine.
Jmarks, I've never welded stainless before... If I remember right from what my shop teacher said, its a b*tch?
A phenloic spacer would be do-able. Hell you could probably make it out of wood.
^ wooden Moroso Carb Spacer.
I gotta do some work to my engine to make it solid before I start playing with boost.
You can use Polyester (IIRC) cutting boards to make phenolic spacers. That you be my preference.
Thats a good idea aswell.
Is there any photos laying around of a S/C manifold for a 2.4 Twin?
I haven't really came up with much in the search on here.
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I had never seen a 2.4 S/C off the car.. Holy crap. The intake is cast into the charger housing?
Well, I'm going to start drawing my intake up.
I know of one!, but i wont post a pic unless the owner says its ok. I painted it a while back. It is a manifold to bolt a prototype m45 to the ld9.
I'm probably going to be using a M62 off of a Series II S/C engine if it will infact work. They seem to be more abundant than the Thunderbird ones.
why not use a current gen 4 or 5 m62. the one for the ecotec?
they are pretty cheap.
I have nowhere to get one from. Theres a few Series II V6 S/C motors at my local junkyard. They have very few vehicles that are newer than like 03.. And most every Cavalier/Sunfire is a 2.4 or 2.2.. I haven't seen 1 Ecotec. And there is no Cobalts.
Cobaltss.net. Guys sell their M62s all the time.
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The only thing I'd recommend with steel is to make sure the thing is coated
very well prior to use. Air has moisture in it, steel rusts and that's definitely something you don't want in your combustion chamber.
ammfab wrote:it would retain heat more than aluminum obviously. if u do make it out of steel look into being able to adapt an efficiant coller to/with it.
mike
Sort of a double edged sword, though. It'd retain more heat, but wouldn't heat
soak nearly as fast.
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Agent Omega wrote:The only thing I'd recommend with steel is to make sure the thing is coated very well prior to use. Air has moisture in it, steel rusts and that's definitely something you don't want in your combustion chamber.
ammfab wrote:it would retain heat more than aluminum obviously. if u do make it out of steel look into being able to adapt an efficiant coller to/with it.
mike
Sort of a double edged sword, though. It'd retain more heat, but wouldn't heat soak nearly as fast.
What about using some sort of epoxy coating like they use for the inside of gas tanks to prevent rust? I had a buddy suggest that when I was gunna make a steel intake for my small block chevy.
Powder Coat, its the only thing I'd consider running as a finish on the inside of the manifold. Well theres other things but they dont make sense financially. You could prevent a lot of the heat soak with a ceramic powder coat.
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And theres nowhere here that does powdercoating ... facepalm..
where is here? above the arctic circle? a 3rd world country? Trust me there is a place within a hundred miles of where you live that does powder coating if you live in America.
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I think theres some people that do it that are on this forum.
Gearstix wrote:I have nowhere to get one from. Theres a few Series II V6 S/C motors at my local junkyard. They have very few vehicles that are newer than like 03.. And most every Cavalier/Sunfire is a 2.4 or 2.2.. I haven't seen 1 Ecotec. And there is no Cobalts.
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/lsj-ac-compressor-m62-s-c-229883/
I know you can trust that guy! The supercharger has some damage on the rotors but the car it came off of ran 12.8's at 112 all day long the day before it was taken off.
He may be negotiable on the price also.
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Leafy wrote:where is here? above the arctic circle? a 3rd world country? Trust me there is a place within a hundred miles of where you live that does powder coating if you live in America.
Closest Pick n Pull is 6 hrs away.
I live in Fort McMurray, Alberta. Home of this kinda stuff..
Anyways. Theres probably somebody down in Edmonton that could powder coat it.. Just have to drive for 5-6 hours to get there. Not a big deal, just wish there was more stuff where I live.
Airtonics wrote:Gearstix wrote:I have nowhere to get one from. Theres a few Series II V6 S/C motors at my local junkyard. They have very few vehicles that are newer than like 03.. And most every Cavalier/Sunfire is a 2.4 or 2.2.. I haven't seen 1 Ecotec. And there is no Cobalts.
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/lsj-ac-compressor-m62-s-c-229883/
I know you can trust that guy! The supercharger has some damage on the rotors but the car it came off of ran 12.8's at 112 all day long the day before it was taken off. He may be negotiable on the price also.
Is it possible to have them repaired? I guess as long as they won't fly apart and shove chunks of blower guts in my engine, it'll be okay.
waaaait a minute.
I just noticed that its you Airtronics, thats selling it on the Cobalt forum... haha..
Would you ship that to Canada? I'll have to find somebody to buy the spare 4.3 I got here..
if you need a hand getting powdercoating done, let me know. im located in red deer and can help you get it done for a wicked price
