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284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:18 PM
Just got a call from the place tuning my car on the dyno and they said i was making 284hp on 20psi of boost. I have a built engine with a 20g turbo (hahn) running 550cc injectors with inline pump (from hahn kit). I don't think somethings quite right with those numbers but im not sure. So i need u guys input on this one. Check out my profile for all my updated mods. Thank you.







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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:37 PM
My guess is they have dialed your advance back too far. Why kind of dyno?



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:48 PM
What type of dyno? What are other specs? Could be a few different things?



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:49 PM
Why would they or should do that? Its on a dyno dynamics dyno.







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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:52 PM
Mike wrote:Why would they or should do that? Its on a dyno dynamics dyno.
Numbers sound right then.....





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:53 PM
QWK LN2 (needs an @ss whoopin) wrote:What type of dyno? What are other specs? Could be a few different things?


I lowered the CR to 8:9:1 n i have turbo grid cams to if that helps.






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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:53 PM
lol thats why... the dyno dynamics is known as the 'heart breaker' dyno... it shows quite a bit less than a dyno jet (which is what 90% of all our member's numbers around here are done with)

on a dyno jet id say ur prolly around 320whp.



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:59 PM
z yaaaa wrote:lol thats why... the dyno dynamics is known as the 'heart breaker' dyno... it shows quite a bit less than a dyno jet (which is what 90% of all our member's numbers around here are done with)

on a dyno jet id say ur prolly around 320whp.
Based on all the research and my experieince tuning on both, the difference is 15-18% depending on weather.....





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:05 PM
So in my case what should be done to the car in order to get to that magic 400hp goal of mines? I thought i would of been closer then that but looks like im still pretty far.






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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:33 PM
You'd be @ 330ish DynoJet. Stock intake manifold? 2.5" exhaust can also be bottle neck...





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:38 PM
Mike wrote:So in my case what should be done to the car in order to get to that magic 400hp goal of mines? I thought i would of been closer then that but looks like im still pretty far.
Get a REAL turbo.......





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:59 PM
john317(AKA Gary the Old guy) wrote:You'd be @ 330ish DynoJet. Stock intake manifold? 2.5" exhaust can also be bottle neck...

No i have hahns intake manifold. I was thinking the same thing about the exhaust but not sure if i would get more then 10 or so horses with a 3". To spend 400 to 500 to get 10 horses is not worth it to but if its necessary then it will be done.
QWK LN2 (needs an @ss whoopin) wrote:
Mike wrote:So in my case what should be done to the car in order to get to that magic 400hp goal of mines? I thought i would of been closer then that but looks like im still pretty far.
Get a REAL turbo.......

I thought i had a good one (or so i thought lol). It doesn't max out into like 500hp with pretty good spool time. What would you consider "a REAL turbo"?






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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:05 PM
plenty of LE5 intake manifolds on Ebay... any headwork?



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:18 AM
QWK LN2 (needs an @ss whoopin) wrote:
Mike wrote:So in my case what should be done to the car in order to get to that magic 400hp goal of mines? I thought i would of been closer then that but looks like im still pretty far.
Get a REAL turbo.......
This. Consider a GT30R or Bullseye S252ET at the same pressure

honestly, even on a dyno dynamics that sounds low. My stock hairdyer turbo LNF put down 307whp on the same type of dyno on 21psi. I'm honestly not very familiar with the s20g in terms of flow/compressor mapping, but i know it "looks" much bigger than mine What is the afr in boost, and what does the timing curve look like? I've been told a degree of timing in boost can be as much as 10hp.



Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:27 AM
find out what they did to the tune. i doubt its the dyno reading incorrect. if the tune is too rich or they retarded the timing too much your numbers will drop drastically.
Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:56 AM
I dont know much about dyno readings like the other guys.

I'm only on a S16G turbo running 18# of boost.

I always guessed 300HP because I was able to run a 12.4 @ 115...
But if your only making 284HP with a 20G @ 20psi....

@!#$ I'm only making 220 tops??






Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:40 AM
he has some tuning issues I think,

can you post a very detailed engine mod list?



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:07 AM
IamQwibby (Eco Meatcake) wrote:he has some tuning issues I think,

can you post a very detailed engine mod list?
Hell, email me the tune..... That may clear up some of it too....





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:14 AM
one day people on this site will learn to only get there tuning done by this man ^^^^^^ or a shop that he approves.



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:42 AM
Screaming for Mercy!! wrote:one day people on this site will learn to only get there tuning done by this man ^^^^^^ or a shop that he approves.


or someone he approves of! Oldskool ftmfw!



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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:11 PM
Doesn't help us west coast canadiens.. Lol..... Even though I'm considering driving out there to get him to tune my car

Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:10 PM
Philly D wrote:Doesn't help us west coast canadiens.. Lol..... Even though I'm considering driving out there to get him to tune my car
I have been told I need to get a passport by a few Canadians!





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Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:50 PM
QWK LN2 (needs an @ss whoopin) wrote:
Philly D wrote:Doesn't help us west coast canadiens.. Lol..... Even though I'm considering driving out there to get him to tune my car
I have been told I need to get a passport by a few Canadians!


Philly D: ask Ryan, i was going to fly him up here but the bastard still doesnt have his passport .

@!#$ im in alberta, if we can setup a couple cars and such, probably be a good turn around, i can setup a dyno for us all but if some guys can help pitch $ in and such we can set it up for this spring/summer

i know that i wouldnt mind ryan going over my tune that i have now, a guy in calgary is looking, another friend of mine will have his built eco ready so be at least 3 cars ready to go


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RYAN GET YOUR DAMN PASSPORT




Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Friday, November 12, 2010 7:20 AM
Well Ryan could leave he just wouldn't get back in......







Re: 284hp on 20psi 20g turbo don't sound right to me, need input
Friday, November 12, 2010 9:59 AM
QWK LN2 (needs an @ss whoopin) wrote:
IamQwibby (Eco Meatcake) wrote:he has some tuning issues I think,

can you post a very detailed engine mod list?
Hell, email me the tune..... That may clear up some of it too....


Ok, i'll email it to you as soon as they send it to me. I don't pick the car up into wednesday from georgia, being that im new to jacksonville, fl i don't really know anywhere where else but that shady ass shop i took it to. Wish i was closer to you (no homo) so u could of done it for me.






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