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Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Monday, November 19, 2007 8:41 AM
Who would be interested in a Twin/Tripple Disc clutch setup for the 2.2L Ecotec engine?

It would require a new special flywheel, as we would need to make a special flywheel to work with the twin/tripple disc clutch.

We could offer a Twin and Triple option with torque capacities of 800 and 1200ft.lbs respectively. These kits use carbon-semi-metallic discs and are very strong but still offer a modicum of drivability. Again it would include a flywheel.

These would be the premier all out clutch for the J's, which would be the stongest in the industy.

We would need about 10 interested and serious to do this setup, to get this project started.

Here is what we would offer, 4 different kits:

Twin Disc Aluminum Flywheel
Twin Disc Steel Flywheel
Tripple Disc Aluminum Flywheel
Tripple Disc Steel Flywheel

Pricing for a complete kit would be $1400-1800 depending what kit you would get above. Is there such interest for this high end clutch setup?

BTW, this develpoment will be with "Turbo Tech Racing" and "SPEC" which will help build these kits, exclusively for "Turbo Tech Racing"






Edited 2 time(s). Last edited Monday, November 19, 2007 8:42 AM

-Aaron
www.TurboTechRacing.com

Performance Parts For Cavalier, Sunfire, Cobalts and More!!!

Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Monday, November 19, 2007 10:45 AM
i would def. love one, but i have 2 problems. 1 i dont have the money now and proboly wont for a while and 2 im not pushin near enough horsepower now to need one.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Monday, November 19, 2007 8:31 PM
Too bad theres not a way to make them for all Jbodies at a slightly cheaper price.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:23 AM
They can be made for all engines, SPEC needs a minimum of 10 orders for each engine. We figured the 2.2 ecotec would be the best. The should in our opinion also be enough interest for the 2.4L. However there are 2, different 2.4L clutch kits, one for the izusu and one for the getrag.... So that would each need 10 kits...


-Aaron
www.TurboTechRacing.com

Performance Parts For Cavalier, Sunfire, Cobalts and More!!!
Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:02 AM
Isn't the flywheel made thinner to make room for the surface discs and larger pressure plate? If you have any pics... I'm wondering how they have it set up.





Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:16 AM
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:They can be made for all engines, SPEC needs a minimum of 10 orders for each engine. We figured the 2.2 ecotec would be the best. The should in our opinion also be enough interest for the 2.4L. However there are 2, different 2.4L clutch kits, one for the izusu and one for the getrag.... So that would each need 10 kits...


The 2 different 2.4 setups are distracting.

Both are interchangable as long as all 3 components are replaced (clutch, PP, Flywheel).

The isuzu was used with the flat flywheel from the mid 80's til '94, even on the quad. It changed in 95, most likely to add mass to the flywheel to smooth out how the engine runs.

The stack-up and splines are the same no matter what trans is used.

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Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:25 AM
I need at least a twin disc for what I plan to be running in the very near future, but unfortunately.. other than me, there are few here willing to pay $1800 for a clutch kit.

I hope this goes through.. I'll be the first to sign up to be interested in the twin disc..

i'd sign up for the triple disc too just in case





Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:56 AM
I might be interested but that price is pretty steep....but much more than a good clutch and flywheel is already. Would SPEC be interested in trying to make a new/better version of the slave cylinder of stock form? - LOTS of people would be all over that.
Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:25 PM
Joshua Dearman wrote:I might be interested but that price is pretty steep....but much more than a good clutch and flywheel is already. Would SPEC be interested in trying to make a new/better version of the slave cylinder of stock form? - LOTS of people would be all over that.


We will let them know this about the slave cyl.

Also the twin disc should be around 1400 and the tripple would be around 1800

One benifit to remember also is, you can get a STEEL flywheel, which will be lighter than stock (OEM), yet wont break like the aluminum ones sometimes do...


-Aaron
www.TurboTechRacing.com

Performance Parts For Cavalier, Sunfire, Cobalts and More!!!
Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:30 PM
2.4's !



My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Friday, November 30, 2007 6:01 PM
im down for a twin disc ecotec




Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Monday, December 03, 2007 3:50 PM
this is a good deal considering a spec fly wheel is 400 and the spec 3+ clutch is around 500. so you spend 300 more and get a second disc that holds more power and allows better dd with higher horsepower. just some food for thought,



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:17 AM
Quote:

this is a good deal considering a spec fly wheel is 400 and the spec 3+ clutch is around 500.


That is a very good point. I think u have convinced to get put my name down for one. But still i wont have the money or the use for it until i get my turbo kit.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:57 AM
well i know their are quite a few boosted cavaliers that would love the extra grip and the better drivability these will provide.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:36 PM
DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU wrote:I need at least a twin disc for what I plan to be running in the very near future, but unfortunately.. other than me, there are few here willing to pay $1800 for a clutch kit.

I hope this goes through.. I'll be the first to sign up to be interested in the twin disc..

i'd sign up for the triple disc too just in case

I'm not going to tell you what to do skwirl, as I am fully confident that you know what you're doing...but I'm pretty sure these torque specs are flywheel rated (perhaps Aaron can verify), which would put you near the edge of the twin's rated torque. That is of course unless you are shooting for high hp and moderate torque. In which case...carry on


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Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:47 PM
I would be down for one for a 2.4!



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Sunday, December 09, 2007 1:35 PM
I paid about 1200-1300 for the Clutch Masters twin disc.............. They already have the tooling to do it for the 2.4L LD9 and the ecotec.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Sunday, December 09, 2007 1:43 PM
I talked to them at Clutch Masters and they told me it was $1700 for one!



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:56 AM
Quicksilver41 wrote:I talked to them at Clutch Masters and they told me it was $1700 for one!


Maybe because I was the first and guinea pig I got the good friend price. :-).




-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:08 PM
You suck!!! J/K How do you like it?



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:37 AM
Quicksilver41 wrote:You suck!!! J/K How do you like it?


You won't like stop n go traffic, it's so damn grippy, and noisy, but it does exactly as advertised. I don't find it too bad, but then again I'm the type of guy that thinks as long as the car has a radio and a window that rolls down to get through a drivethrough ti's still streetable.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party


Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Monday, January 07, 2008 5:10 AM
Is there anyway to get a twin disc clutch for an ECOTEC w/o this GP. Cuz i think this thread is dead.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:23 PM
Tinkles wrote:Is there anyway to get a twin disc clutch for an ECOTEC w/o this GP. Cuz i think this thread is dead.


Yes, call Clutch Masters.... They have already done up one for Hahn's car, so they should have what you need on file. You'd have to shoot them an email or call them up.

The price also won't be just for the clutch, it will be a flywheel, clutch, throw out bearing, pressure plate combo.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:34 PM
remember hanh destroyed that clutch very quickly. they may have a new design though.



Re: Twin/Tripple Disc Clutch setup? Interest?
Friday, January 11, 2008 2:10 AM
NightmaresCavy wrote:remember hanh destroyed that clutch very quickly. they may have a new design though.


Hahn was using a lil bit of a unique setup. They had something like an iron / organic'ish disc combo...

I know of a few 600hp Evos using the EXACT same twin disc setup that I was using ****besides the obvious difference in flywheel size^^^^^ doing just fine at the dragstrip.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

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