you telling me that no one has a clue on here. i find that hard to swallow.
"IF YOU PERSIST IN DOING WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE .....
EXPECT RESULTS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED"
Check out reviews,
www.tirerack.com has info on the tire as well as customer reviews.
Also, patience is a virtue.
Blown.
i looked at tire rack but wanted to know what jbody owners thought. and im used to people answering pretty quick. sorry.
"IF YOU PERSIST IN DOING WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE .....
EXPECT RESULTS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED"
Its all good, I wish I could help you. I'll be needing tires for the summer, too, so I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.
Blown.
Basically the lower the treadwear rating the grippier the tire. I would go with either the first or second one you posted.
Goodyear Eagle F1, Firestone Firehawk, Pirelli P-Zero, Toyo Proxes, Kumho Ecsta, there's a ton out there. I use Goodyear Eagle GT HR on the street, and they work better than any tire in its price range, atleast in my opinion.
Be kind to dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
of course those are better. but like you said money is the factor. steve, what about the selections i posted above?
"IF YOU PERSIST IN DOING WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE .....
EXPECT RESULTS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED"
what do you want out of your tires? Do you want the best HANDLING tires or do you want some tires that are gonna benefit you in a drag race? Thats one of the big questions you should answer. Then you decide what rating tire you want. H- rated.. which will be better to drag but you give up some in handling compared to a w or z rated tire. Also the H rated tire is probably gonna give you 40,000 to 50,000 miles as opposed to 20,000 from a w or z rated tire.
^^good point...any z rated tire will perform better but they dont last as long.
Personally I'd probably go with the BFG g-forces.
I am using Fusion ZRI's, They are a really a BF goodridge Protenza with a different name, They were not too expensive either, I got them from a buddy of mine who works at tires plus in Florida. They seem to stick the road pretty well though i have not taken them to the track.
Of the choices you presented, I like the BFGoodrich g-force Sport. Z speed rating
and a treadwear rating of 340, plus a nice sidewall & tread pattern. Of course, any upgrade from the crappy Goodyear RS-A
is going to be noticable. I switched to Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 - 215/50/16, and the wet/dry grip, cornering, responsiveness is waaay better.
"If everybody's thinking alike, somebody isn't thinking."
-General George S. Patton
the falkens are nice.
the dunlops, i tend not to like because they are made by good-for-a-year.
the kumho's are your best performance for price.
i personaly like the g-force sports.
also, bridgestone has some new stuff out. if your looking for an H rated theres the Potenza G009
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+G009
theres also the RE950 which is a nice tire for summer only (trust me on the summer only)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE950
they even have a new line out called "fuzion" which is designed to be a cheap z-rated tire for tunners who dont have alot of money.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Fuzion&tireModel=ZRi (z-rated)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Fuzion&tireModel=HRi (h-rated)
and FYI, tread wear ratings dont mean @!#$.
tread wear ratings are done by the manufacturer. they take a tire that they could have made 20 years ago thats in the same category as the one u want. they run them both till they are bald and compare how much longer the one lasted. if it lasted 4 times longer, it gets a tread wear rating of 400 (4 x 100).
if you have a question about tires, ask away. i work with them daily.
BFG has some other nice ones out, but they can get expensive.
the BFG G-force T/A KD's are a uni-directional (rotates one way) and Asymmetrical. this means you have to order a right and left side tire. they are a Dry only tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KD
the KDW's are Dry and Wet tires. and i believe are directional. can't remember
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW
the KDWS's are Dry, Wet, and Snow rated for an all season performer.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDWS
also BFG Traction T/A's are an excelent tire if you wan an allseason performer at a good price. they only come in t, h, and v rated. id recomend the v's for maximum grip in summer.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Traction+T%2FA+V
whitegoose wrote:and FYI, tread wear ratings dont mean @!#$.
Treadwear ratings mean
something, just as long as one understands what the numbers mean. All things being equal(driving habits, alignment, type of car, etc...), a tire with a rating of 300 is going to last longer than one with a 100 rating. We're answering a question from a specific member who drives in a certain way, so he can figure out what wear rating is best for him. From what I understand, wear rating compairisons are more consistant when dealing with tires from the same manufacturer, and become less accurate when compairing, say, a Falken with a BFGoodrich.
"If everybody's thinking alike, somebody isn't thinking."
-General George S. Patton
bandit 1 wrote:whitegoose wrote:and FYI, tread wear ratings dont mean @!#$.
Treadwear ratings mean something, just as long as one understands what the numbers mean. All things being equal(driving habits, alignment, type of car, etc...), a tire with a rating of 300 is going to last longer than one with a 100 rating. We're answering a question from a specific member who drives in a certain way, so he can figure out what wear rating is best for him. From what I understand, wear rating compairisons are more consistant when dealing with tires from the same manufacturer, and become less accurate when compairing, say, a Falken with a BFGoodrich.
ya you are right. i should have been more specific and said i was talking about comparing different brands, but it also aplys when comparing two tires from one brand that are in different categories, such as ultra-high performance all season and max performance summer.
If price is a concern, the Kumho MX's or Yokohama AVS100's would both be great choices.
mahcmos wrote:^^good point...any z rated tire will perform better but they dont last as long.quote]
incorrect.
the speed rating does not attribute to the gripping performance, stiffness of sidewall, or how well it holds or releases heat.
speed rating is achived via a tire test to see how high the tire can go before basically tearing itself apart or melting.
starts at 6.3mph for 10 minutes and goes up from there in increments of 6.2mph till the tire reaches it's breaking point. (tirerack has lots of info on this.)
Victoracers come in speed ratings of H, V, and W depending on the size.
I would argue that a Victoracer with a speed rating of H will be far superior to any street tire even of Z rating, as far as performance in terms of grip is concerned.
-Chris
I have a friend who has Kumho Ecsta ASX's on his Supra Turbo, and he says they're GREAT and they're confortable. I have another friend who has the Dunlop FM901's on his 240sx (235/40-17 rear, 225/45-17 front) and his car handles better than any go-kart I've ever ridden in, MUCH better than his old Kumho Ecsta 711's. Though I setup most of his suspension for grip/autocross.
I would go withthe Dunlops IMO.
if your gonna get the Kumho's think about the 712's there are very good....
if money's an option check out the 711's too
jz wrote:if your gonna get the Kumho's think about the 712's there are very good....
if money's an option check out the 711's too
Yup. I have the 712's in 215/50/16 and they very good in wet and dry. For the price, they're hard to beat.
"If everybody's thinking alike, somebody isn't thinking."
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