I feel like the biggest noob but i have a really dumb question. On a 00 cav the upper half of the door panel is vinyl isnt it?
Even on a vert? cause I primed one door and when i took time to look at the other it felt softer.
Also the way everything went together was different on 95-99 coupes and 2k plus.
On the 95-99, the doors were two pieces and the crpet in the center top just popped out.
On 2k+ the carpet peice had plast welds holding it in, and the door was one peice instead of two.
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ok now you lost me. my door panel is one piece but made of two seperate peices held together with plastic welds. also the carpet piece does pop off but their is plastic behind it. All i really need to know is what meterial the top of my door is and how will it hold up to paint. right now its primed and looks pretty good. i pressed on it and no cracks.
LEts see some pics of ur interior........i am curious to see how the painting is coming along
my fingers are so raw from all my other work i cant tell for sure but its both squishy and hard. not as squishy as the dash but not as solid as the plastic either. Im gonna wait alittle longer to see if anyone knows but if not im just gonna spray and hope im not wasting paint. as for pics right now its all just in primer. im gonna do a red black theme but im mixing the red so im waiting till i get my order of flake in.
so how safe do you think i am painting it?
DONT paint it, it will not stick, either Rewrap it in another color or strip the vinyl off an then paint it.
the vinal test....
take your finger, ...
with fingernail, push into the material,
look close when you take your finger off,
if there is an indentation its vinal....no indentation...its plastic
Uhmm my vert's door panels are plastic.. which is why im thinking of redoing those doors LOL Instead of using my almsot finished 95-99 doors. No freakun vinyl on top!
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i got to check tomorrow. im pretty sure its vinyl because the part that caught my eye was the back of the bottom half is plastic but the back of the top half is something else.
superman wrote:DONT paint it, it will not stick, either Rewrap it in another color or strip the vinyl off an then paint it.
I have had no problems painting vinyl, on several vehicles. Never bubbled, never fish eyed, never cracked, never peeled.
Its all about the prep work, and materials.
You do a quicky prep job, it will come out bad.
You use cheap materials, it will come out bad.
Simple as that.
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The problem with paint on vinyl is that paint isn't made to adhere to or cure properly on top of vinyl. This will result in the paint becoming very, very sticky. Especially in hot weather. Seeing as how this is an
arm rest... well, you do the math, LMR.
Painting on vinyl has nothing to do with prep work. It has everything to do with chemical properties though.
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Raptor wrote:The problem with paint on vinyl is that paint isn't made to adhere to or cure properly on top of vinyl. This will result in the paint becoming very, very sticky. Especially in hot weather. Seeing as how this is an arm rest... well, you do the math, LMR.
Painting on vinyl has nothing to do with prep work. It has everything to do with chemical properties though.
Hmm, like a flexibitor, or a UV inhibitor, and such is basic prep work when painting vinyl.
Ive never had a problem before, and ive painted 18 different Vinyl interiors.
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Flex additive cures out eventually, and is only good for flex during install. If the paint dries properly over the vinyl, expect it to crack. UV inhibitor is going to be typically used for fading in this case, or discoloration. Who said anything about fading? Clearcoat, which is pretty much a necessary item when painting an interior to protect the paint from abuse, gets sticky when applied to vinyl. Next?
I won't bother addressing your last line. You've got a reputaton for lying; who's to say you're not now?
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just get some spray adhesive promoter and vinyl paint (all in aerosol cans) and this will work perfect, i did it with my doors, works great, later
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Raptor wrote:Flex additive cures out eventually, and is only good for flex during install. If the paint dries properly over the vinyl, expect it to crack. UV inhibitor is going to be typically used for fading in this case, or discoloration. Who said anything about fading? Clearcoat, which is pretty much a necessary item when painting an interior to protect the paint from abuse, gets sticky when applied to vinyl. Next?
I won't bother addressing your last line. You've got a reputaton for lying; who's to say you're not now?
And you have a repution of taking sides wether it be wrong or not. Look at my old kia for instance. That was a vinyl interoir, and it lasted years without any problems.
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true.
Cannon fodder is my daddy.
Oh? Which Kia was this? The one with the Richmond RWD trans? Or was it the one with the custom header that you made? Maybe the one with custom hydrogen injection setup?
Perhaps it was the one with a Scat crank. Oh that's right - all your Kias had a custom-made Scat crank, so nix that thought. And you obviously got all that money for those custom cranks from the website you owned. The owner of which ALSO stated you have a history of lying. And I quote...
Quote:
The individual you have in question I do know about, he has fabricated many stories about what he has done to his car and the work he does. To my knowledge, most of what he says is fabrication.
Honestly, seek help. I've never seen a more clearcut case of a pathological liar. Therapy does really good things for people these days.
*shakes head*
Anyway, I stand firm. I disagree with using any paint on the dash. I haven't yet tested NAcav1604's method on painting the dash which is posted in the Interior FAQ. Until I do, I don't believe that anything besides vinyl dye will work properly on the dash top without require constant care or reapplication.
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Anyone peel off the vinyl? Is their anything paintable behind it?
Raptor wrote:Oh? Which Kia was this? The one with the Richmond RWD trans? Or was it the one with the custom header that you made? Maybe the one with custom hydrogen injection setup?
Perhaps it was the one with a Scat crank. Oh that's right - all your Kias had a custom-made Scat crank, so nix that thought. And you obviously got all that money for those custom cranks from the website you owned. The owner of which ALSO stated you have a history of lying. And I quote...
Quote:
The individual you have in question I do know about, he has fabricated many stories about what he has done to his car and the work he does. To my knowledge, most of what he says is fabrication.
Honestly, seek help. I've never seen a more clearcut case of a pathological liar. Therapy does really good things for people these days.
*shakes head*
Anyway, I stand firm. I disagree with using any paint on the dash. I haven't yet tested NAcav1604's method on painting the dash which is posted in the Interior FAQ. Until I do, I don't believe that anything besides vinyl dye will work properly on the dash top without require constant care or reapplication.
You stupidity evades me. So you say you cant paint on vinyl and have it look good and last. Here is my kia, fool. oh and btw, it lasted 6 years without any fade, bubbling, stickiness, or peeling and cracking.
Learn before you burn..
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