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That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
I know i am going to get reemed for this but oh well. Where can i get a replacement piece for that cracked part of the dash? Cause mine is getting alot worse. and i really dont want to goto GM to get it cause i am sure it will break again, wondering if there is an aftermarket piece that is stronger.




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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:56 PM
winks was going to make them i believe, but they went out of business... As of now i do't think anybody makes something to cover it, since the only way to replace that piece is literally take the entire dash out. I could be wrong though someone might make a FG cover for it, but i don't thinks so, someone correct me if i am wrong cause i would buy it lol

Best bet is going to a yard and digging a new uncracked one out and replace it, or if you are good with FG make a nice cover that covers that enitre piece there by the windshield.



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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:12 PM
How much would you guys pay for a FG cover for that part. I just may want to start to sell them
Re: That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:03 PM
If my mind serves right, winks was sellin em for like 100$ish i think, again that was right after i got into J's so i don't remember exactly...



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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:27 PM
What peice are you talking about???


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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:13 PM
for the sunfire it's not as big deal, we are talking about the piece right against the windshield, in sunfires it comes out really easy, in cavaliers it is a giant chore..



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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Sunday, January 01, 2006 2:23 PM
yea, i was at a yard yesterday when i was picking up my cluster. I will be going back next week to see if any of them have that piece. I will FG it when i get it. Well, attempt it. heh.




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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 9:52 AM
Go to a junkyard and get one out of a '98 Z24. Both of my '98 Z24's peices are in perfect condition to this day.



Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 10:12 AM
i wish someone made the piece also. cause i also have the infamous crack. and yes winks was selling them for 100 dollars shipped.





Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 11:44 AM
pully our dash and wrap it with vinyl. should take you a couple hours and about 20$


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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 12:14 PM
^^^got any pics of wrapped in vinyl







Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 1:47 PM
I have a 2000 z-24 with the same "cracked piece of s***"

I wonder if fixing the panel is the answer, or, because of stresses induced when conering (the whole body does a whoo-yaaa when thrown into a corner) if you put a new panel in, it would just crack again.

Perhaps fixing the piece and stiffening the j-body a bit might be the answer. But i dont know how that would fix it either because cracks might appear in other areas as a result.

I figure the stock body is sloppy, its engineered right, but GM doesnt make a "regular" car with the idea that its going to be a "budget" corvette.

the z-24 was the answer, but still the fact that the panel is cracked in mine, tells the same story.

CHECK THE SLOPPY OF YOUR CAV-VIE.

..Please note..
Remeber that if something screwes up in this procedure, ie the car is dropped, or a jack fails and the car falls... there is a potential of damaging the car PERMINANTLY... so make sure all of this is done delliberatly and with MAXIMUM CAUTION in either a shop, or on a very flat level piece of concrete away from Children and pets.

Plus, I would hate to hear that Im indirectly responible for f*cking up your pride and joy. because I would feel bad, and yes it would keep me up at night.

To find out how sloppy your cavalier is, you need:
2 floor jacks (same size and weight)
2 jack stands 1/2 tone or greater
1 beer (or 12 with a chaperone)*
1 chaperone*

(* please dont drink, because you shift the blame from me, to you that way)

Ok.. lets do this.

Make sure engine is off, and its in park, or neutral with the emergency brake on...
make sure both doors are closed,firmly... if you want to play tunes, roll the windows down.. instead... if you leave the doors open, you will do nasty things to the car..

note: if you have any cracks in the windshield, this procedure will make those cracks larger, depending on the location of them.. I would suggest getting a new windsheld before attempting this procedure... do what you want... its your car...

Locate a solid jacking point on the Front Driver Corner of the car.. Near the radiator, but not under. Something that will not crush when jacked. When found, slide a jack under that area and squeeze up the jack so theres contact.

Locate a rear Passanger jacking point, same details as above, slide jack under and squeeze up to contact.

Now "GENTLY" jack the rear corner of the car untill BOTH rear tires come off the ground. When the Drivers Rear tire begins to lift.. slow down and jack untill a squeek of daylight can be seen under the tire. (slide a jackstand under the Body at the Sandard Jack slot (just in front of the rear passanger tire) and get it close to touching, but not quite (this will catch the vehicle incase anything goes awry) Finally lock the handle of the floor jack to the up position.

Go to the front of the vehicle, and start jacking slowly.. you might hear some interesting noises, but dont worry, this is an engeneered body.. they have rigerous test procedures to make sure that even under the worst case scenarios it will not fail, (short of dropping it on its roof, getting into a collision, you get the idea)

Same idea with the front, only dealing with a little more weight.. Jack it unill a sliver of daylight is visible under the front passanger wheel... Slide a jackstand under the car (NOT THE ENGINE) and make it fall safe....afterall, you want to be alive to enjoy life, RIGHT?

Ok.. now your car looks strange, asthough a 2 year old was playing with jack today, and happened accross your car. Plus, everything is out of wack... your hood dont line up, and your fenders are a little wacked.. plus your doors are...what the hell happened...
not to worry, this will all go back to normal when the wheels and tires come into contact with the earth in about 15 min...

With a tape mesure , measure the distance between the bottom of the front driver wheel (right at the tread level BDC of tire) and the ground, Repeat the same procedure with the passanger rear tire.

Take both mesurements and take the average ( m1 + m2 ) \ 2 = TD1

TD1 is your Torsion Deflection Measurement.

This is how much your car flexes and shudders and reacts to changes in road surfaces, and subjected G-force (a corner for example)

Ok.. take your jack stands out, and lower the vehicle, (front first. then rear)

Remeber again that if something screwes up, ie the car is dropped, or a jack fails and the car falls... there is a potential of damaging the car PERMINANTLY... so make sure all of this is done delliberatly and with MAXIMUM CAUTION in either a shop, or on a very flat level piece of concrete away from Children and animals.

Plus, i dont want to be indirectly responible for f*cking up your pride and joy. because I would feel bad, and yes it would keep me up at night.

Anyways.. let me know how it goes.. Im not going to post my numbers, because I dont want to either encourage of discourage people taking part in this procedure. Simply because a car with 80,000 miles on it, will have an obvious difference compared to one with 160,000 miles on it... Z-24 to a Z-22, plus ones with tower braces, and a 12 point roll cage (drool...)

Oh by the way... things to stiffen the cavilier.. any good suggestions, I thought about a set of tower braces, but I realized that the car is twisting slightly longditudinaly (front to back, not side to side)

cheers and dont kill yourselvs.
-ken


Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 4:28 PM
^^ all that to cover up or fix a crack .... no thanks





Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 4:32 PM
strut bars, one of those floor braces whatever they are called i can't remember, they should help a good bit.. but idk that that is why those pieces are breaking...because mine cracked over night when noone drove it lol



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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Monday, January 02, 2006 5:45 PM
Shaune Drake wrote:^^ all that to cover up or fix a crack .... no thanks



the truth is, why cover it up, or swap it out, when the problem might be deeper than just cosmetic. If you fix the problem at the source then it won't be back to bother you at a later date.

as I said before, my '00 Z-24 has the same problem, and I wish there was a quick fix.

Oyyci wrote:strut bars, one of those floor braces whatever they are called i can't remember, they should help a good bit.. but idk that that is why those pieces are breaking...because mine cracked over night when noone drove it lol



Maybe its how it was installed at the factory, or perhaps its just an OEM defect

You know what would be nice, is if they made an aftermarket piece, that had vents in it.. so you could attach your factory defrost blower hoze, (or whatever it is) to it, and instead of the window defrosting from the centre out, it would defrost from the bottom up..

it would make the operation (and quite a large one at that) perhaps a little more worth my time, then just grumbling about it, and living with it..

Whats that piece covering up anyways... looks like nothing...

anyways...


Re: That cracked piece of s***
Tuesday, January 03, 2006 2:12 PM
the dash piece is just a cosmetic piece, it serves no real structural purpose other then to look nice so covering it up wont hurt it. i have a sunfire so mines removable i wrapped it in vinyl not much to see really just looks the same as stock but in vinyl


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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:05 AM
I have had 4 3rd gen cavs.. NEVER have i had a crack.........I must be one lucky sob.

98 5spd sedan
96 5spd coupe
03 auto sedan
00 5spd coupe z24......

+ my freinds 95 3spd auto does not have one.. and it hasb een in 3 acidents.. beaten to crap........Luck surrounds me



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Re: That cracked piece of s***
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:43 AM
covering it up won't do the car or body any harm. it's only the plastic on top that snaps.

Starting in April to May, I will start making fiberglass covers for the cavy guys. I've been thinking of it for quite some time now, and I know alot of people would like one. Reason why I'd start in April to May...it's too cold to do fiberglassing right now and I'm still in school.

keep an eye out for some posts in the near future, I will do my best to help out the JBO guys





Re: That cracked piece of s***
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:59 AM
^making the part isnt the hard part. its mas producing and getting the mold right. thats why no ones doing it.





Re: That cracked piece of s***
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:03 AM
^ yup I know, the mold is key so the part will fit on properly.





Re: That cracked piece of s***
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:37 PM
Lemme know when, and I skirt some money your way..

also, I need to know where a good pair of strut tower supports that might be kicking around...

slightly used or new... just as long as I get them cheap...

regards
-ken



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