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Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:31 PM
Went to the track my best pass was:


60' ... 2.033
330 ... 7.974
1/8 ... 8.466
MPH ... 91.53
1/4 ... 12.830
MPH ...112.97

Didn't get that one on video but I did get a 12.9 & a few 13.0's on tape. Anyways enjoy

http://www.airtonics.com/racing/2008/dragracing/lapeer9-27-08/jonvsjay1.wmv

http://www.airtonics.com/racing/2008/dragracing/lapeer9-27-08/jonvsjoe.wmv

http://www.airtonics.com/racing/2008/dragracing/lapeer9-27-08/jonvsjoe2.wmv
This last vid was a slower run there was no other loud noises. So you can actually hear the car.

The car could still use some add'l tuning but not bad for the first time out. As I play with it more I'm sure the times will drop, especially if I can get the 60ft down some.

Joe & Jay, thanks for coming out today. Had a good time!


12.770 @ 111.99 Intercooled Eaton M62



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:45 PM
awesome times man! congrats
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:52 PM
YES!






Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:57 PM
Awesome!!!

Love it!


Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:21 PM
Very nice. what do you have done for traction mods/tires?


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

In my family we teach that boys have a God-stick and girls have a Shame Cave. -John Stewart
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:24 PM
Love it!





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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:48 PM
wow, congrats dude, very nice runs


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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:25 AM
Congrats man. Does that make you the first known roots supercharged J in the 12's?







Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:44 AM
JL audio everything is in my mods life. For traction i have BF goodrich drag radials and the quaife diff probably helps a bit.

Fscav, for a J-body I think so but on I looked earlier on cobalt SS.net their fastest date with the M62 is really close to mine:
1.)DWK5150,12.84@110.53 w/2.04 60',I/PB/DP/E/2.5"/HE/T/DR's
The abbreviations are: Intake, ported blower, dual pass intercooler, exhaust, 2.5" s/c pulley, heat exchanger for the intercooler, Tuned, drag radials.

I only beat him by .01 but my traps are a little higher and there's still some more bugs to be worked out. So I anticipate the times will drop more later in the season or next year.


12.770 @ 111.99 Intercooled Eaton M62


Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:48 AM
Now for my super noob question... yeah this is really going to make me sound like a noob lol....


BUT, I know for my car(mustang) and all RWD cars exactly what i need to do. I can launch, get traction, not spin 1 bit, and pull decent 60' times... EVERY video I ever see of a FWD car drag racing, it seems like they spin or hop at least a little bit. Is there a way to get that solid no BS launch that a RWD can get so easily? I only ask because you pulled awesome times with 60' times that could easily be better than that, and are running DR's. I just don't see 90% of the suspension/traction parts that RWD cars can easily get being able to work for FWD, so I gotta ask how you fast running, high powered FWD drag racers get a better 60' than 2.0? I never see it done lol.


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

In my family we teach that boys have a God-stick and girls have a Shame Cave. -John Stewart
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:55 AM
Well keep in mind weight transfer is working against us but works for the rwd guys. When you launch a car the weight transfers to the back, for us that takes weight off the front tires while it places more weight on a rwd cars back wheels. As you can see there are no timing boards at this track. It's not the best place in the world by any means but it's nice because you can get several runs in without waiting in staging lanes all day. Here they don't allow fwd cars in the water box so i can't warm up my drag radials so that kinda sucks. Secondly the track prep is null. I can pull better 60fts at a track like Milan, usually 1.9's which would probably drop me in the 12.6 range. I'll go to a better track sometime soon and see how the car does again.


12.770 @ 111.99 Intercooled Eaton M62



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:01 AM
WHY wouldn't they let a FWD car in the water box? You mod and tune your car the same, you probably have more horsepower than some of the RWD cars there, AND you are running tires that will do better when warm... WOW, you need to hit a real track ASAP lol. Even my back woods 1/8 mile track does VHT and anyone can warm in the water box. It's a shame that a hick ass ex-landing strip in the woods has better prep and organization than some of the tracks some of you guys seem to be racing at.. They need to shut down lol.

But as far as weight transfer, yeah. It will always be in favor of a RWD car. But I kind of wonder if you could play with tire pressure and get the tires warmed up a bit, if it would eliminate all the hop/spin? It seems like you literally NEED to save up and get full out slicks just for a FWD car with 200hp to hook up at a drag strip. WTF do I know though lol..

Sorry to somewhat "jack" your thread about running 12s and asking a bunch of questions and ranting lol.


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

In my family we teach that boys have a God-stick and girls have a Shame Cave. -John Stewart
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:58 AM
AMAZING man ! Congrats !



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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:15 AM
You did a damn good job. A better 60' time and youll see mid 12's easy. Congrats on getting a roots sc'd j-body into the 12's, now spray it and hit 11's



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:04 AM
JLAudioCavalier wrote:WHY wouldn't they let a FWD car in the water box? You mod and tune your car the same, you probably have more horsepower than some of the RWD cars there, AND you are running tires that will do better when warm... WOW, you need to hit a real track ASAP lol. Even my back woods 1/8 mile track does VHT and anyone can warm in the water box. It's a shame that a hick ass ex-landing strip in the woods has better prep and organization than some of the tracks some of you guys seem to be racing at.. They need to shut down lol.

But as far as weight transfer, yeah. It will always be in favor of a RWD car. But I kind of wonder if you could play with tire pressure and get the tires warmed up a bit, if it would eliminate all the hop/spin? It seems like you literally NEED to save up and get full out slicks just for a FWD car with 200hp to hook up at a drag strip. WTF do I know though lol..

Sorry to somewhat "jack" your thread about running 12s and asking a bunch of questions and ranting lol.


this track is in a little back woods hick town. Most of teh guys there seem to look down on us when e show up at the track. They do minimal track prep that gets worse as the end of the season nears. Its a great track to get a lot of runs in and learn a few things about teh car though. I think my best 60' there was a 2.1 and that was on RSA's.



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:11 AM
That is SICK bro!! I can't wait to see more times.



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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:19 AM
Congrats on the Times !!




Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:20 AM
Congrats, quite an achievement!





Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:28 AM
<3



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:34 AM
woot woot






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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:38 AM
Awsome!

Just like Joe said, thats quite an achievement.



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Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:50 AM
JLAudioCavalier wrote:WHY wouldn't they let a FWD car in the water box? You mod and tune your car the same, you probably have more horsepower than some of the RWD cars there, AND you are running tires that will do better when warm...


I wouldn't say its common but its not unheard of. With RWD you pull around and back into the water pit just enough to get the rear tires in, with FWD you have to drive completely through the water pit so you end u tracking and dripping water all over the start of the track.



Anyways, awesome times, I'm impressed.



Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:58 AM
ECO love!! Super wicked dude!! Really makes me want to think again about charging my car :p



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214whp 190wtq
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:36 AM
Awesome Jon! Glad that you finally have her up and running. I hope to see it run a few autocrosses next year.






As for this track. I hate this track. The parking lot is all gravel, the track is cracked and bumpy, the timing equipment sucks, and it is expensive to race there to boot. However it is a close place to get alot of runs in. As for not letting fwd cars into the water box, its not so much that we aren't allowed, its that we literaly cant get to it. You have to pull around it, then back into it. However, there is a small barrier behind it preventing a fwd car's front tires from even being able get into the water box.



Go Go OG Traction!!
Re: Eco S/C breaks into the 12s :)
Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:43 AM
Simply amazing!!!





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