Holy pictures. I can't wait to see what this puts down....and to hear what was done to that thing. It looks like you guys had a lot of fun getting everything done.
wahooooo!!!!!
glad you FINALLY got over here and posted this! LOL
have fun you bastard.
Every time I scream "Release", I mean it, you know it. I feel the day. Black 7.
Why FORD blue?
13.520 @ 98mph! 220whp 234tq
That weekend was fun. Even though I could only help with the removal, I learned a ton and had a blast
So this was Karo's engine out of the white drag sunfire?
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Should be a bad b1tch then!
Congrats!
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Interesting, well I suppose we now know the disposition of Karo's car. I'm curious why you bothered putting the M45 supercharger on it, it's just going to be an air restriction on that motor. Didn't it put down more NA than anyone has made with an M45 to begin with?
12.770 @ 111.99 Intercooled Eaton M62
Airtonics wrote:Interesting, well I suppose we now know the disposition of Karo's car. I'm curious why you bothered putting the M45 supercharger on it, it's just going to be an air restriction on that motor. Didn't it put down more NA than anyone has made with an M45 to begin with?
That is a GM protype M45 that put's out around 13psi (more than any normal M45 I have heard of).
I would like to know the specs on the motor but I'm sure it is high/higher compression, which should go nice with the M45.
FU Tuning
Nice work on the install.
Dibs on the underdrive pulley that used to be on there, LOL!!
Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi
LG0/LD9 for Life
Airtonics wrote:Interesting, well I suppose we now know the disposition of Karo's car. I'm curious why you bothered putting the M45 supercharger on it, it's just going to be an air restriction on that motor. Didn't it put down more NA than anyone has made with an M45 to begin with?
this is the one comment i have heard a couple times...i guess we will see what it can do once it gets on the dyno. if it doesn't give much more power then it was na...i guess i'll just have to upgrade the blower then huh? lol
everyone else thanks for the comments...hopefully i'll get full specs on the motor soon and i'll pose them up
and its ford blue cause thats the way karo had it...and im too lazy to change it...plus it really doesn't look too bad in there
blwn ld9...ask eric about the pulley
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oh and it looks like i found karos old post from 2003 where he states the motor build...i don't think much will differ from then and what i have now but here it is...i edited out the parts that don't apply to what im using but here is the link to the archived post also
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=8577&t=8577&arch=1#8577
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
Car Customs Stainless Steel Race Intake Valves
Car Customs Stainless Steel Race Exhaust Valves
Car Customs Bronze Valve Guides
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings
Clevite 77 Main Bearings
Eagle Forged Connecting Rods
Miller Performance Port & Polish Head
Miller Performance Oil Pump Conversion
Miller Performance LD9 Racing Crank
Miller Performance Intake Cam
Miller Performance Exhaust Cam
O’Ringed Block
SCE Gaskets Copper Head Gasket
Wiseco 10.5:1 Compression Forged Pistons
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If I'm weird and everyone else is weird, does that make me normal?
-me
Versus Motorsports really @!#$ sucks
and so does DHL...but more
I'm jealous!
Looking good. I still "that" M45 charger.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
still dont see how this thing made 259whp n/a but i guess only time will tell. get that bish on the dyno!!!
he also had a hella ported ho intake w/ 75mm tb iirc. and a custom large tube stainless steel header. so those im sure had something to do with it. he was also using an obd-1 setup.
Every time I scream "Release", I mean it, you know it. I feel the day. Black 7.
^^^ LD9 swap the sssc!
Every time I scream "Release", I mean it, you know it. I feel the day. Black 7.
haha and m62 it
8 psi with m62 and IAT under 100
hey todd did you get the header off yet? lol j/k.. That was fun but lets not do that again for a wile.. its too hot..
OhForKavy wrote:J03Y wrote:poor people do that
I hate to break it to ya..but a lot of people on this site aren't in the wealthy bracket. If we were, we prolly wouldn't have j-bodies
That oil pan is badass! Not a fan of the blue, but I understand its heritage lol.
I realy dont see how the sc will restrict the motor specially with the higher boost from the prototype. With the higher compression should see some nice numbers
i would give my left testicle for that motor and blower setup
but i also remember when he had that car at the cdn bash many many years ago he was running a @!#$ ton of nitrous into it
you must have had KR on your old motor to cause the piston to chip like that
JBO since July 30, 2001
we motor swap in the summer so the car will be tuned and running for the winter lol
i have a feeling because of how much air the na motor could move...i'll probily lose a little low end power but pickup alot of top end cause of the boost...again not a clue whats gonna happen till it hits the dyno
the old motor blew cause it wasn't tuned...at all. it was the stock gm flash and i wasn't anywhere close to the stock blower psi...and the meth wasn't working i found out after seeing the kink in the hose
oh and i did get an e-mail from todd miller with some more details on the motor...
Quote:
10:1 wiseco pistons with modified chambers, longer than stock rods, .040 over, decked block, milled head.
head was fully ported all around
crank is knife edged
valve train is likely stock 2.4 although the parts were sold to us as better than stock, it tested as stock, except the valves which are ferrea but stock sized. Lifters are stock 2.3.
If I'm weird and everyone else is weird, does that make me normal?
-me
Versus Motorsports really @!#$ sucks
and so does DHL...but more
The charger is too small to use with the motor.
The compression is too high to use with the charger.
The header looks too small, but kinda hard to tell by a pic.
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carey965 wrote:i would give my left testicle for that motor and blower setup
but i also remember when he had that car at the cdn bash many many years ago he was running a @!#$ ton of nitrous into it
Nope.
That was just the story the supporters of the car that lost to it want everyone to believe.
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