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explaining camshafts
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:13 AM
so im not a retard, i know what cams do and how, im looking for specifics now

what exactly does the duration/lift mean on a cam?

im sure that the lift is how much it lifts the lifter, so if the lift on a cam was .212, then the lifter would raise .212 inches.

can somebody explain duration to me?


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Re: explaining camshafts
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:37 AM
i think duration means how long the valve stays open



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Re: explaining camshafts
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:27 PM
well i know that. i mean when it says the duration is 220, what exactly does that mean?


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Re: explaining camshafts
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:40 PM
yeh i was wonderin the same thing.


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Re: explaining camshafts
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:13 PM
The duration is how long the valve under that lobe is open, in degrees of rotation.

The lift is the amount of distance the camshaft will push down (or up, depending) on the valve.





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Re: explaining camshafts
Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:08 AM
so something with a 220 duration would mean that for 220 of the 360 degrees of crank/cam rotation, the valve would be open? then possibly a 180intake/180exhaust would be best for boost so that there is no overlap?


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Re: explaining camshafts
Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:36 AM
land pirates cavalier wrote:so something with a 220 duration would mean that for 220 of the 360 degrees of crank/cam rotation, the valve would be open? then possibly a 180intake/180exhaust would be best for boost so that there is no overlap?



i'm confused now. correct meif i'm wrong but wouldn't you want the exhaust profile to be a little more extreme due to the face that a turbo works of the exhaust so you can make boost faster??? id ont' know if this has relevance just a ???


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Re: explaining camshafts
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:07 AM
Land Pirates-

You want some overlap to help get the exhaust out of the cylinder, check out http://www.howstuffworks.com and type in camshafts for the search. Camshaft design is an artform in its own.





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Re: explaining camshafts
Friday, April 29, 2005 8:53 AM
they never overlap

you have a 4cycle engine (aka a 4 stroke)


which means that there are 4 individual strokes

each stroke is ment for a specific action

first you have a intake stroke, where the piston moves down drawing in air( intake valve open)

then you have a compression stroke which compresses the air/fuel mix by moving the piston upward. In the 2.2 2200 it compresses it 8.5:1.(both valves closed)

3rd you have a combustion stroke where the spark plug ignites the compressed mixture pushing the piston down ward producing the power that turns your wheels(both valves closed)

4th you have an exhaust stroke where the piston moves upward pushing the exhausted mix out of the engine(exhuast valve open)

so as you see they never overlap each other

don't worry about it.

the valves might be open inbetween the exhaust and intake. the exhuast will be closeing as the intake is opening.






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Re: explaining camshafts
Friday, April 29, 2005 12:49 PM
hey sinrocker...i think you need to do 2 things.
1) STFU
2) go learn your terms. your speaking on crankshafts when the post is about camshafts. please stop posting until you know what your talking about. ive seen 4 posts by you lately and every one of them is FULL of wrong information. so please until you understand a car yourself please stop posting.

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Re: explaining camshafts
Friday, April 29, 2005 10:16 PM
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Re: explaining camshafts
Friday, April 29, 2005 10:20 PM
hypsy wrote:hey sinrocker...i think you need to do 2 things.
1) STFU
2) go learn your terms. your speaking on crankshafts when the post is about camshafts. please stop posting until you know what your talking about. ive seen 4 posts by you lately and every one of them is FULL of wrong information. so please until you understand a car yourself please stop posting.

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Re: explaining camshafts
Friday, April 29, 2005 11:46 PM
im just tired of all the misinformation around here right now. if i had any time and spare cash id go premium just so i could correct every wrong post i see but im too busy working and running my car



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Re: explaining camshafts
Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:53 PM
did you think that maybe he just misunderstood the question? what he said did have to do with camshafts, but nothing to do with my question. doesnt mean you need to be disrespectful


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Re: explaining camshafts
Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:27 PM
what he said has NOTHING to do with camshafts at all....except theyre part of the 4 cycle engine. his whole thing was about a CRANKshaft which does something TOTALLY different. and with all the bad info ive seen from him, and others to be fair, i did need to show a little disrespect. sometimes its the only thing that has any affect



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Re: explaining camshafts
Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:24 AM
Maybe your the idiot because he was answering a question about how overlap works. So why don't you shut the @!#$ up. Read more then the first post and you realize other questions have spawned too.



Re: explaining camshafts
Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:49 AM
sinrocker wrote:they never overlap

you have a 4cycle engine (aka a 4 stroke)


which means that there are 4 individual strokes

each stroke is ment for a specific action

first you have a intake stroke, where the piston moves down drawing in air( intake valve open)

then you have a compression stroke which compresses the air/fuel mix by moving the piston upward. In the 2.2 2200 it compresses it 8.5:1.(both valves closed)

3rd you have a combustion stroke where the spark plug ignites the compressed mixture pushing the piston down ward producing the power that turns your wheels(both valves closed)

4th you have an exhaust stroke where the piston moves upward pushing the exhausted mix out of the engine(exhuast valve open)

so as you see they never overlap each other

don't worry about it.

the valves might be open inbetween the exhaust and intake. the exhuast will be closeing as the intake is opening.


Quote:

Maybe your the idiot because he was answering a question about how overlap works. So why don't you shut the @!#$ up. Read more then the first post and you realize other questions have spawned too.


Ok Mr. IMABE A HARDASS please show me where he says anything about camshaft overlap. the only thing he says is that it doesnt exsist....which is does BTW. its a very big part of finding the right camshaft setup. then show me where anyone has asked about the 4 cycle motor and how it works. You cant do either because he was so far off on his reply that it should never have been posted. Now in your own words..."Shut the @!#$ up."

Now this is why this site is going downhill. People always gotta be a internet toughguy. People always gotta say the first thing that comes to mind...even if its wrong. Newbies need to sit back and read a few posts and do some research before posting any questions and especially before posting a reply. Granted there may be some new people that have some training in this field, schooling or real life (i have both BTW), that have a clue what they are talking about but it seems the majority of people joining this site lately are young teens who are just getting their first cars and thinking a 200dB exhaust means you have mad, tyte power.



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