Hello, im brand new to the forum and just had a few questions
I drive a 95 Z22, 4 cylinder, 2.2 ,5 speed
things i have added... big list be prepared:
k&m air filter
yeppers looking for a little more pep, it is already fairly quick but i wanna do a few things to it.
WHAT WILL THIS DO ?
Cool air intake-
Aftermarket cat. converter ( currently have it straight piped due to my old cat. caveing in) -
Thanks for the help, and im looking forward to reading up on everyones posts.
scratch that did more lookng around im getting a better car like a ford focus :X
jk found info in performance.. stupid me
there have been so many 2200 related posts in the last few days I think I am just going to jump on the "iT us3S teh search function N3wB" bandwagon
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Those so naive, so hard headed, so narcissistic, that think that buy their own efforts can single handedly change the world, are always the ones that do.
^^ I noticed that too..
as for this
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WHAT WILL THIS DO ?
Cool air intake-
Aftermarket cat. converter ( currently have it straight piped due to my old cat. caveing in) -
It will just make the car sound different.
A full exaust on a 2.4 only adds like 3 to 7hp or so if your lucky, and the intake doesn't do much more. I think my car only puts out 10 to 12 more horsepwer than stock at the crank. The only reason my 1/4 mile times are what they are is because of my tires and I know how to drive.
You're going to need a lot more than that. You might get 5hp off a full CAI, but not a filter change. As for the cat. pretty much nothing. And I've been wondering, have you dynoed your car weebel, I'm sure you have more power than that.
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Im no expert but you need a plan of attack don't do like i did bolt a supercharger with the stock brakes and sucky stock radials and expect it not to have any draw backs
i would sugest www.hahnracecraft.com and the turbokits.com
do you relize that cold air kit could be used to getting more satisfying power
also did you do a compression test on the motor to see how healthy it is?
im only saying this because i f**k up all the time because i jump in with no game plan
i would say this
alternator and battary
fuel pump wires and ignition
bushings
get some performance spings and shocks
now you have eliminated or reduced wheel hop and got rid of some pain in the rear wear items
get some decent ruber
check your motor to see if its healty enough to be boosted
save up till you have the money buy the hahn kit
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And I've been wondering, have you dynoed your car weebel, I'm sure you have more power than that.
I only posted what I did for a comparison... basically saying it will prob make less of a difference on a 2200 and although it doesn't always hurt... not to expect any major changes..
This thread is a little old and this is way off topic from what the OP was asking but...
No I havn't dyno'd my car... I don't even think there are any around here..What do you think my car should have than?
I was just trying to be realistic..
going from 150 stock at the crank.. I was thinking a minimum of 160 to 165hp. But if I where to guess withouth being so negative I bet I'm probably butting down somewhere around 175hp to the crank and if I where to dyno it I would get about 153HP to the wheels. But thats my optomistic guess..
The full exhaust and intake should be adding up to 40hp. It can add over 100 on v8s.
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Rob Durrett wrote:The full exhaust and intake should be adding up to 40hp. It can add over 100 on v8s.
yes, because hp:displacement is directly relative and scalable.
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I never said it was directly scalable, its diff per engine, but the point is that you should be getting more than that. How the hell would I be able to run with late 80s MR2 turbos with only 130hp? Thats just illogical.
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^^ undersized turbocharger.. horrible flowrates in the head.. restrictive exhaust... poor/no tuning.
+ its a mr2, not a cav.
a cai will add 1 hp at the wheels.. maybe. you think your going a lot faster.. from the sound. but it does not make a difference if you use the same head or exhaust.. you may see 5-10 hp with full exhaust + header +cai... you see power when you port your head... when you get more agressive cams, when you tune your computer. forced induction is a good option too... just juice. if you cant afford the boost.
id say port your exhaust, gets some cams, and get some boost. you'll be happy.
"Z24 Dustbunny"
rocker arms (8hp) , Port and polish head with valve job and 1mm oversize valves (depends how aggressive but 10+), full 2 1/4 exhaust (headers back) (8hp) , CAI (3hp) , Bore out a 2.3 Quad 4 Throttle body to 58mm(??), And if you cant have the down time, get a head at a salvage yard, the 2.2 is plentiful, and there are many in decent shape out there.
These are things i want to do to mine, as for gains, it's hard to say, but without cams, You may get 30 or more hp,
Chase Powers wrote:^^ undersized turbocharger.. horrible flowrates in the head.. restrictive exhaust... poor/no tuning.
+ its a mr2, not a cav.
a cai will add 1 hp at the wheels.. maybe. you think your going a lot faster.. from the sound. but it does not make a difference if you use the same head or exhaust.. you may see 5-10 hp with full exhaust + header +cai... you see power when you port your head... when you get more agressive cams, when you tune your computer. forced induction is a good option too... just juice. if you cant afford the boost.
id say port your exhaust, gets some cams, and get some boost. you'll be happy.
Look up the quarter times for a stock MR2 turbo, the LN2 won't touch 15s...
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*atleast not without some decent power gain
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hmm.. the two "turbo'd" mr2's ive messed around with were slower than my ld9.... im almost stock.... *shrug*
"Z24 Dustbunny"
sorry rob; intake, header, full exhaust including cat is only good for around 10-15 hp on a cavalier, regardless of 2200, 2.2, or 2.4 engine. its been dynoed and proven. accept it and get over it.
GO PATS!!!
If its dyno proven, ok...but even so, that just sounds ridiculous, my 10-15hp gain got me a whole second shaved off in the quarter.
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Then again thats whp...didn't think about that until now, dyno=whp not crank.
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