I FOUND OUT THAT THE HEADERS THAT ARE SOLD FOR THE 22OO ARE MADE FOR THE 2.2 AND DONT FIT....THE BOLT HOLES MATCH BUT THE POTS DO NOT.....THE HEADER BLOCKS 30% OF THE EXHAUST FLOW ON THE 2200 ....I PORTED MY HEADER 2 FIT MY 2200 ....BE4 I DID IT RAN SLOWER THEN WITH THE STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLD.....JUST LETTING YOU KNOW ...I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY.....PEACE
GO TO WWW.IPERFORMANCE.BIZ AND LOOK
NO GO TO WWW.IPERFORMANCE.BIZ....THE PACESETTER IS THE RITE SHAPE BUT THE PORTS DONT LINE UP
That site doesn't list a 95-97 header, only 98+, so if you have a 2200 and ordered from there, than it appears they made the error in getting the ports lined up, which says
a lot about the quality of their product (ie. shoddy) Get your facts straight there turbo.
I vote thread lock
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Header for 1999-Current Chevrolet Cavalier/Pontiac Sunfire with 2.2 liter OVH engine.
Featuring the same industry leading elements and quality assembly that puts our Quad Four header ahead of all others in the field.
Constructed of heavy 14 gauge aluminized steel pipe, mandrel bent, with heavy flanges and quality welds for long life. Tri-Y header design for these applications is exclusive to Iperformance, ensuring the widest power band and more usable horsepower and torque for the best acceleration at the track or on the street. 1 1/2 inch primary pipes, 2 inch secondary pipes, and 2 1/2 inch collector, for 26% more flow than any other exhaust system for these cars on the market. Two piece construction for easiest installation.
Woven steel flexible joint ensures that the twisting of the engine will not loosen the bolts or crack the pipes, far superior to competitor's designs without this feature which are susceptible to these problems. These headers have two (2) primary O2 sensor fittings. One fitting is mounted high, in the OEM position and meters from two exhaust ports while the second is mounted at the collector where it meters from all four exhaust ports for maximum accuracy. A plug bolt and copper washer is supplied to close off the unused sensor fitting.
Secondary O2 sensor fitting after the catalytic converter as per GM design. Large, high flow, 2 1/2 inch inside diameter Carsound (Magnaflow brand) catalytic converter included, making this the only complete header available for these cars which complies with emissions laws. Header not available without the catalytic converter. We use only Carsound/Magnaflow brand catalytic converters with our headers because lesser quality catalytic converters are not compatible with the ODB II emissions systems of these vehicles and will trigger error codes that will flash the check engine light. 2 1/2 inch mandrel bent, aluminized exhaust pipe for 26% more flow than any other exhaust header for these cars and long service life. High exhaust flow capacity make this header ideal for supercharged and nitrous applications as well as all naturally aspirated engines from mild to wild.
Header offered only as complete unit, not available as individual parts. Offered only as complete unit, not available as individual parts. All hardware required for installation included: nuts, bolts, washers, lock washers, lock, and clamp needed to assemble the three pieces of the header assembly.
Upper copper header gasket, and lower steel and fiber composite catalytic converter gasket also included. Available with optional ceramic coating . Our ceramic coating is done by Reliable Metal Finishing using Tech Line brand ceramic coatings. Tech Line is the industry leader in ceramic coatings supplying materials to the majority of companies offering ceramic coating service for automotive applications.
For headers, we use a Tri-Coat system consisting of MCS Insulating Coating inside the pipe and MCS Insulating Coating under MCX Cermakrome on the outside of the pipe. The MCS Insulating Coating withstands over 2,400 degrees and drastically reduces under hood temperatures. The MCX Cermakrome combines high heat tolerance and maximum heat insulation with the most durable finish available for superior weather and abrasion resistance. The multiple coatings combine for a finish unmatched by the offerings of any other header manufacturer anywhere.
Please note that the use of header wraps, on any header, accelerates the deterioration of the steel by causing heat fatigue, and will in all cases result in rapid, premature failure of a header.
Please Note: This header has been designed specifically for 99-Current model 2.2 liter OHV engines. Pre 1999 Chevrolet 2.2 liter OHV engines have a different port pattern in the head with different port size and placement on the head face. Pre 1999 2.2 liter OHV engines use a different header flange pattern. Our header for 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engines is the only header on the market designed specifically for the 99-Current port pattern.
As can be easily seen in this picture of a 1995-97 OEM Chevrolet 2.2 liter OHV exhaust manifold flange placed over a 1999-Current OEM Chevrolet 2,2 liter OHV exhaust manifold flange, while the bolt holes to mount the manifold or header line up, the ports do not. The ports miss completely overlapping by 5/16 inch (.3125 inch) on the top edge and 3/16 inch (.1875 inch) on the lower edge. This mismatch in port placement results in blocking off over 30% of the exhaust port when a 1995-97 header or manifold is used with a 1999-Current head, or when a 1999-Current header or manifold is used with a 1995-1997 head.
Our header flange for the port pattern of the 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engine and does not fit the 95-97 model engines. 95-97 2.2 liter OHV engine ports are placed higher on the head. Headers made to fit the 95-97 engines will not fit the 99-Current engines without causing significant turbulence in the exhaust erroneously listing a header to fit all 2.2 liter OHV engines, they have not checked the port pattern and are selling you something that does not fit correctly. Our header is the only header designed specifically for the 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engine.
As can be plainly seen, the ports of the 95-97 2.2 liter OHV engine header do not match up with the ports in the head of the 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engine, which causes disruption and turbulence in the exhaust flow, increasing back pressure and drastically decreasing exhaust flow efficiency, decreasing power output by the engine. Please Note: This header will not fit the 1998 2.2 liter OHV engine because it is designed to fit the cars with the 1999-Current exhaust down pipe and exhaust system. The 1998 model cars use a different down pipe and different exhaust system. This header can not be used with 1998 model cars unless it is used with our 1996-98 Quad Four cat back exhaust system instead of the 2.2 liter OHV cat back exhaust system.
Plain steel header shown, bluish discoloration of the steel is due to the heat of welding the header together. An excellent upgrade replacement for owners headers by RK Sport, RSM Motorsports, Mantapart, or Pacesetter. Please be sure to specify year of car on order form.
Header in plain mild steel finish
PN SHBILL14P..........................$629.00
Header with tri-coat ceramic coated Tri-Y assembly, aluminized collector pipe and catalytic converter
PN SHBILL14C..........................$679.00
Ok, I'll tell you what... I order a Pacesetter header for the 2200, match it to my 97 gasket. If it doesn't match you buy the header from me for full retail cost.
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Our header flange for the port pattern of the 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engine and does not fit the 95-97 model engines. 95-97 2.2 liter OHV engine ports are placed higher on the head. Headers made to fit the 95-97 engines will not fit the 99-Current engines without causing significant turbulence in the exhaust erroneously listing a header to fit all 2.2 liter OHV engines, they have not checked the port pattern and are selling you something that does not fit correctly. Our header is the only header designed specifically for the 99-Current 2.2 liter OHV engine.
notice how it says "our header" at the beginning of that paragraph? that means that company doesnt make one for the 95-97 cars. the header they make is for the 98-02 cars. BUT OTHER PEOPLE DO. know what the @!#$ you're talking about before you open your @!#$ mouth.
Kardain wrote:I vote thread lock
second.
JBO Stickers! Get yours today!
I KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE ITS MADE FOR 99- ON UP 2200 SFI ...THIS HEADER IS WRONG FOR 95-97 ITS MADE FOR 99-02 ........HAVE YOU GON TO THE SITE AND LOOKED AT ALL THE HEADERS??????THIS PARAGRAPH IS FOR THE 2200 SFI HEADER THEY ALSO SALE ONE FOR THE 95-97 2.2L OHV...READ THE HOLE THING FROM TOP TO BOTTEM...AND I DONT KNOW WHY EVERY ONE IS GETTING SO PISSY....IF YOU CANT FIGURE IT OUT THEN THATS YOUR BAD....OTHER COMPANYS CLAIM TO MAKE A HEADER 4 A 2200 BUT ITS JUST DIFERNT SHAPE AND PIPE LENGTH WITH THE SAME FLANGE AS A 2.2 L AND THIS IS WRONG IV PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG ......LOOK AT TH FLANGE FROM A 2200 PACESETTER HEADER AND A GASKET FROM THE 2200 EXHAUST MANIFOLD AND YOU WILL SEE...I CAN TELL YOU DONT HAVE A 2200 SFI WITH A HEADER AND IF YOU DO YOU DIDNT PUT IT ON OR DIDNT LOOK AT WHAT YOU WHER DOING ......STOP CRYING AND LOOK AT IT IF YOU CANT THEN THATS YOUR PROBLEM I WHAS TRYING TO HELP ...GO AHEAD AND DO IT OR READ THIS FROM TOP TO BOTTEM WITH MORE THEN A 3RD GRADE COMPREHESION ........I FIXED MY HEADER AND I GUESE YOU ARE STILL DRIVING AROUND WITH AN EXHAUST HEADER WITH A 30% BLOCK......STOP CRYING...
I think its mereley an error of they sent the wrong one. the offset on the ports is shifted from the 2.2 to the 2200, but its the same flange. Pacesetter does make both.
YES THEY DO BUT THE FLANGE IS THE SAME.....MAYBE I GOT A PEACE OF CRAP HEADER BUT ITS WEARD .....
oh how the bird sings a different tune
JEREMY HANNUM wrote:I KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE ITS MADE FOR 99- ON UP 2200 SFI ...THIS HEADER IS WRONG FOR 95-97 ITS MADE FOR 99-02 ........HAVE YOU GON TO THE SITE AND LOOKED AT ALL THE HEADERS??????THIS PARAGRAPH IS FOR THE 2200 SFI HEADER THEY ALSO SALE ONE FOR THE 95-97 2.2L OHV...READ THE HOLE THING FROM TOP TO BOTTEM...AND I DONT KNOW WHY EVERY ONE IS GETTING SO PISSY....IF YOU CANT FIGURE IT OUT THEN THATS YOUR BAD....OTHER COMPANYS CLAIM TO MAKE A HEADER 4 A 2200 BUT ITS JUST DIFERNT SHAPE AND PIPE LENGTH WITH THE SAME FLANGE AS A 2.2 L AND THIS IS WRONG IV PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG ......LOOK AT TH FLANGE FROM A 2200 PACESETTER HEADER AND A GASKET FROM THE 2200 EXHAUST MANIFOLD AND YOU WILL SEE...I CAN TELL YOU DONT HAVE A 2200 SFI WITH A HEADER AND IF YOU DO YOU DIDNT PUT IT ON OR DIDNT LOOK AT WHAT YOU WHER DOING ......STOP CRYING AND LOOK AT IT IF YOU CANT THEN THATS YOUR PROBLEM I WHAS TRYING TO HELP ...GO AHEAD AND DO IT OR READ THIS FROM TOP TO BOTTEM WITH MORE THEN A 3RD GRADE COMPREHESION ........I FIXED MY HEADER AND I GUESE YOU ARE STILL DRIVING AROUND WITH AN EXHAUST HEADER WITH A 30% BLOCK......STOP CRYING...
People may be able to read at higher "than a 3rd grade comprehension" if you were able to type at a second grade level. Why do people like yourself decide to spew sewage from your brain and then back it up with the fervor of a religious zealot without any clue what the hell you are talking aboot.
I will go out on a limb here and guess that Kardain and I were not the
only lucky bastards to get a factory reject header that accidentally fit our engines. Please re-route your exhaust into the cabin and leave your windows up, oh yeah, turn OFF the CAPS LOCK before you do.
ToBoGgAn wrote:I will go out on a limb here and guess that Kardain and I were not the only lucky bastards to get a factory reject header that accidentally fit our engines.
nope, because mine's perfect too.
JBO Stickers! Get yours today!
i dont know why im even wasting my time with you how about you prove it??????send pic of your header with the 2200 sfi gasket placed on top of the ports lined up with the bolt holes??????iv given you a web sit with pics on it showing you that im rite and you have nothing........i have a 2001 cavalier 2200 sfi and this is how it is ..........if you cant then stop crying....
so are you willing to take me up on my offer?
i didn't take any pics because at the time i installed mine on my 99 and dan's on his 02 i did not believe that someone had yet to evolve paste the intellect of the amoeba, and i have met some pretty dumb people.
good luck with life, looks like it will be an uphill battle for you.
I THINK YOUR FULL OF @!#$ AND YOU DIDNT LOOK .....I DID ...IF YOU DONT LOOK IT WILL SEM AS IF IT RITE....YOU STILL CANT SEE EVEN WHEN I HAVE GIVEN YOU A PLACE TO GO 2 AND SEE .....IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE $150.00 OR SO ILL TAKE YOU UP ON IT ....ILL EVEN BYE THE GASKET AND SEND IT 2 YOU .......
^^ I don't know what your problem is, except for the obvious. But the Pacesetter header DOES work. I personally have a 2200 SFI engine with a Pacesetter header attached and NOTHING was done to "make it fit." If you desire, I can take pics for you tomorrow, it's too dark out now.
Derek, you are funny as @!#$ man.
-dan
Caps lock for the cool!
Pacesetter makes headers for both...most performance sites suck, try ebay next time.
If the header doesn't fit because you bored out the head guess what...it's your fault and you will have to order/make a custom header.
The bolt pattern on the site is correct for the 98+ (I've memorized the pattern having stared at the damn thing so long during port and polish).
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Pushrods wrote:If the header doesn't fit because you bored out the head guess what...it's your fault and you will have to order/make a custom header.
Just ream out the header with a nice drill bit and everything will be fine
-dan
I have a pre2200 header on my 2001 2200 and it works fine. Had no problems, bolt and go
