Hi all, I'm pretty much a complete n00b, I know a little bit about cars, but not much...so here goes.
My car:
2000 4 door cavy
2200 engine
4 speed auto
now it USED to be a family car...but now it's all mine =D and I really don't want to go the "ricer" way and get some civic and tune it sooo i decided to work on this car.
I'm not trying to make it a beast or anything, just really tired of people in their Acura TSX/TLs thinking theyre all that...I have a lot of them around me, I don't know why and leaving them in the dust would be nice. Any suggestions on how to make my car faster with as little money and time as possible? I was thinking of putting a cold air intake in and maybe changing the headers and fuel injector. Any suggestions would be great! Thanks!
You'd need to do a bunch of work to the 2200 to be leaving those cars in the dust.
Check out the mods in my Profile, most weren't too inexpensive, and a few took a bit of time to do/get/install.
They made the car really fund to drive, but even with them done I don't think I'd even come close to doing what you're trying to do. However I don't know what a TSX will run. A TL? No way haha.
I'd say save your money and get a turbo setup of some kind. it'll be the most cost effective way for you to make the most power.
However, in my experience with this platform, its best to research untill your face turns blue before you do/buy anything. There isnt a strong aftermarket for the 2200, or our cars in general, so it takes a bit more brains to do anything with them.
Good luck!
the 2200 just isn't going to make the power you want within a tight budget and short time frame. is it doable? yes.
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Thanks for the input so far guys!
Well by not expensive I don't mean dirt cheap, I've got a few grand to spend...just wanted to get the most out of my money.
Can you even put turbos/superchargers on an auto? =S
Yi Liu wrote:Thanks for the input so far guys!
Well by not expensive I don't mean dirt cheap, I've got a few grand to spend...just wanted to get the most out of my money.
Can you even put turbos/superchargers on an auto? =S
Yes, you just won't be able to use a Hahn kit without custom charge pipes.
http://www.turbosystem.com/auto/Cavalier/ln2ohv.htm
There's a link to a Hahn kit for your car.
An Acura TSX is making about 205 bhp, whereas a TL is around the 286 area.
Thanks for the link Ron. Are there any superchargers for my car? I just asked my friend and he said that it'd be better for me to put a supercharger instead of a turbo. And also can automatic cars have cold air intake or does it have to be short ram?
Yi Liu wrote:Thanks for the link Ron. Are there any superchargers for my car? I just asked my friend and he said that it'd be better for me to put a supercharger instead of a turbo. And also can automatic cars have cold air intake or does it have to be short ram?
There are no superchargers for the LN2 that I know of, that's why everyone uses turbos. Your best option would be to research turbos and piece together a kit unless you can find someone getting rid of a complete setup. You could also swap in a 2.2 Ecotec. Here's the How-to...
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=38274&t=38274&p=1
...Intakes have nothing to do with the tranny, so you can use a cold air just fine.
i havent seen too many supercharged 2200s... (actually i havent seen any...)
now as for your last question... It doesnt matter what transmission you have for the air coming in to the motor... you can run Cold air intake on anything... think of an engine/trans working like this
Air comes in to the motor, and the cylinder on its Intake stroke collects the air.... The piston rises compressing the air (compression stroke). With the compressed air, fuel injected in to it from the fuel injectors, and spark from the spark plug to ignite the mixture, you have combustion which pushes the piston down and raises the next piston/cylinder in the firing order (power stroke). Finally the left over gases are released through the exhaust valve during the exhaust stroke...
Now with this happening over and over thousands of times per minute, each time the pistons move the crankshaft and camshaft is rotating. In your engine, the camshaft is on the engine block (instead of the engine head) and pushes push rods up to rocker arms that open and closes the valves (allowing air in and out of the cylinders) ... On one end of the CRANKshaft is the flywheel. In your case, attached to the flywheel is the torque converter. The crankshaft turns the engine side impeller inside the torque converter, the impeller causes the transmission fluid to rotate through the inverter, turns the stator in between the impellers, and turns the transmission side impeller. basically the only link between the motor and trans is Transmission fluid. spinning between two fans... From there the transmission impeller turns the inputshaft in the transmission, and the gear sets turn in the right combination so that you are in the right gear. and turns the output shaft. The output shaft connects to the differential. Connected to the differential are the CV Axles that lead to each front tire and turns the hub which have the 5 studs that the wheel ad tire is bolted on to with lug nuts
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a TL is a little high of a goal, even with a turbo setup... you will be spending tons of money getting your engine built to handle a high load of boost to get your horsepower up to the TL's level...
at that point its just as easy and cheaper to do a motor swap...
you have two conventional motor options and several unconventional (non J engines) motor swap options
For conventional motors, you have the:
1) LD9 2.4 litre DOHC Quad family engine, Developed by Oldsmobile. This motor was used in Z24s and Sunfire GTs from 96=02
2) Ecotec 2.2 litre DOHC "2.2 Twin cam", Developed by Saturn. This motor was used in 02 LS Sports, and all Cavaliers and Sunfires from 03 - 05 and is in current production in the base model Cobalts, G5s, Ions, etc....
The LD9 is slightly faster than the ectotec (stock for stock) and has a stronger block (cast iron vs aluminum), but the ecotec has a much larger aftermarket support, making it easier and requires less creativity to make it fast. GM has made superchargers for both engines, as well as several aftermarket companies. There are also Turbos for both engines...
If you go LD9, i recommend 2000 or newer, due to the deleted EGR, and better Getrag 5 speed trans (might as well to a trans swap if you are swapping motors)
Or you can go unconventional and drop any of the V6 engines in... 3100, 3400, 3500, 3800
if you keep the 2200, and mod it... you should shoot to try to hang with Acura Integras (since you want to compare with Acuras)... Start with the LS (130 ish Base HP)... then the GS R (170 ish base HP) ... then the ITR (Type R) (191 ish base HP) ... right now you are sitting about 110 Base HP, and about 91 HP to the wheels. then you have to deal with weight.
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WOW Kyle....*bows down and worships* haha thanks a lot man! That's a lot of useful info =)
Don't think I'll be doing any engine swapping anytime soon, and if I do I'll probably put a M3's engine in haha, I know it's like impossible, but I can dream right? =P
