wow. that camaro got destroyed.
Damn.
I liked the ending, just cuts to the graphic after the camaro crosses.
That Evo is a 10 second flat car on pump gas. No idea what it is on a race tune.
bahahahaha. awesome.
gotta love it when the all mighty v8 gets humiliated.
sad thing is though... the camaro probably has bolt-ons and a 100 shot. whereas the evos got 10 grand + worth in mods.
Here's a believable vid.
Unlike the
allegedly 10 second Camaro in the first vid, listen to how quick this one gets through first, second, and third. The Evo gets so soundly humiliated, he just lets out of it.
Much more realistic Evo vs. Camaro
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There are plenty of youtube videos of 10 second and lower evos (at the track mind you)... come on Bill... even you know that. It's not that hard to believe.
that camaro is lucky to be a mid to high 11 sec car , judging by that pass
Not to mention you can't see @!#$ in that video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ6MeoAOEec
believable vid... amazing how close it is the first race when they are down cylinders and 150 hp.
then how far it is the second race.
oh and a PRIME video showing why AWD over RWD... Seems to me the AWD's are launching like a bat out of hell while RWD sit and spin... wait, wasnt that a toy as well? It must be the new straight line rally racing that they just invented...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVJH8aMj_ao
shiZblam wrote:There are plenty of youtube videos of 10 second and lower evos (at the track mind you)... come on Bill... even you know that. It's not that hard to believe.
There are also plenty of vids of 8, 7, 6 and even 5 second Camaros. Case closed.
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Sure thing. But there are many more 15 and 16 second camaros. Hell... I don't think there's an evo that runs worse than mid 13's stock.
Regardless, these are street legal, street tire... 8-10 second evos. You know... cars you can actually drive beyond the bounds of a race track.... No 20" wide slicks on the rear and 4" wide on the front worthless bs.
But like I said in the other thread, if I wanted a drag car, I wouldn't want awd.
shiZblam wrote:Not to mention you can't see @!#$ in that video...
You don't have to see...you have to HEAR. Look again at my post.
Of course, this would mean one would need a working idea of how truly fast cars actually sound...
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shiZblam wrote:Sure thing. But there are many more 15 and 16 second camaros. Hell... I don't think there's an evo that runs worse than mid 13's stock.
Regardless, these are street legal, street tire... 8-10 second evos. You know... cars you can actually drive beyond the bounds of a race track.... No 20" wide slicks on the rear and 4" wide on the front worthless bs.
But like I said in the other thread, if I wanted a drag car, I wouldn't want awd.
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ6MeoAOEec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVJH8aMj_ao
you mean like so
prime examples of why id want awd over rwd...
shiZblam wrote:Sure thing. But there are many more 15 and 16 second camaros. Hell... I don't think there's an evo that runs worse than mid 13's stock.
Regardless, these are street legal, street tire... 8-10 second evos. You know... cars you can actually drive beyond the bounds of a race track.... No 20" wide slicks on the rear and 4" wide on the front worthless bs.
But like I said in the other thread, if I wanted a drag car, I wouldn't want awd.
It's all moot. The quickest street tire Camaro would
murder the quickest street tire Evo. The quickest overall Camaro would ANNIHILATE the quickest overall Evo. Case even farther closed.
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shiZblam wrote:. Hell... I don't think there's an evo that runs worse than mid 13's stock.
Sure there is. It's called a Lancer, and it's an 18-second econo sh!tbox.
Evo's are analogous to V8 Camaro's that will go 11's with next to no mods...not to base Camaro, which is analogous to base Lancer, and will still run and hide from it.
Comparisons only count if they are accurate.
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:shiZblam wrote:. Hell... I don't think there's an evo that runs worse than mid 13's stock.
Sure there is. It's called a Lancer, and it's an 18-second econo sh!tbox.
Evo's are analogous to V8 Camaro's that will go 11's with next to no mods...not to base Camaro, which is analogous to base Lancer, and will still run and hide from it.
Comparisons only count if they are accurate.
a lancer, is not an evo. so you are right, comparisons only count if they are accurate.
and wait. you are telling me that an 8 cylinder car will more often beat a 4 cylinder car? NO WAY
also the lancer is a 17 flat car. hey what did cavaliers start at?
Wrongo. Lancer is the basis of Evo. For those of you unfamiliar with this concept, the car's full name is Lancer Evolution.
I'm sorry. What does a Cavalier even have to do with a thread called Lancer...ahem, I mean Evo vs. Camaro? Oh, I know. You're already out of anything else to add. It usually doesn't take long
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Wrongo. Lancer is the basis of Evo. For those of you unfamiliar with this concept, the car's full name is Lancer Evolution.
I'm sorry. What does a Cavalier even have to do with a thread called Lancer...ahem, I mean Evo vs. Camaro? Oh, I know. You're already out of anything else to add. It usually doesn't take long
no the full name is not lancer evolution. it is just a mitsubishi lancer. Evolution is another model. hence the lancer evo VIII
from here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer
since you wont read it...
In 2004, a heavily restyled Lancer surfaced with a front facia that brought it into line with the Mitsubishi corporate look, as well as a restyled rear,
to further differentiate itself from the Lancer Evolution and for a more modern appearance. The car's grille was then redesigned again in 2006.
and
For the United States, the new
Lancer was initially available in DE, ES, and GTS trim levels
as well as
For the 2006 model year, the fascia was changed again from a bridged fascia to one with an open vent after Mitsubishi received complaints from current owners regarding its similarity in appearance to General Motors Division Pontiac's corporate look,
and to bring the appearance closer to its bigger brother, the Evolution.
so did you finally just read that and learn something or you still think you are right? they are not the same things. just like an srt4 is not a neon.
LOL. Vince, an SRT-4 is most definitely built from the same car as a Neon. Dear God. Is this really the best comparison you could come up with?
Ah, wait...of course it is. You're Vince. How silly of me...
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lmfao wow i knew bill hahn jr would stick his nose in here to defend the poor domestic cars!!! i knew as soon as i watched the evo beat the camaro that he was gonna be screaming rigged!!!!! Its really funny though , but most the time for a domestic muscle machine to put down the same power to weight ratios as an import awd car does they get like 2mpg and are very impractical to drive on the road unless you wanna stop every other block for gas, not to mention alot are stripped out, and that doesn't go to say that an evo or a sti gets great gas mileage cause they don't , but they come stock and beat the stock camaro's with half the displacement.
Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:LOL. Vince, an SRT-4 is most definitely built from the same car as a Neon. Dear God. Is this really the best comparison you could come up with?
Ah, wait...of course it is. You're Vince. How silly of me...
built from the same car is not the same car.
and you are bill. you did not read a word of truth anyone posts. you are too stubborn or godlike to believe anything anyone else says or PROVES. a SRT4 is not a neon. tell you what, go down to a dealership with one, and find the word neon on the car. then we will talk. also go find a lancer and find the word evolution on it. oh wait you wont. you think you know it all. but even you didnt know a lancer is not an evo.... and when provided with the truth, you STILL wont admit it. how pathetic.
Taken from your chosen source, Wikipedia, but altered to improve your apparently poor comprehension (reading > you)...
The
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, colloquially known as the Evo, is a high-performance version of Mitsubishi Lancer, manufactured by Mitsubishi Motors. There have been ten official versions to date, and the designation of each model is most commonly a roman numeral. All use two litre, turbocharged engines and four-wheel drive systems. Evolution models prior to version VII were the homologation models for Mitsubishi's efforts in the World Rally Championship. In order to follow these rules,
the Evolution was based on the same unibody as the Lancer sedan.
...The
Lancer Evolution X sedan features a newly designed 4B11T 2.0l (1997cc) turbocharged, all-aluminum inline-4 engine. Power and torque depend on the market but all versions will have at least 280 PS (205.9 kW; 276.2 hp) (JDM version), the American market version will have slightly more. The UK models will be reworked by Mitsubishi UK, in accordance with previous MR Evolutions bearing the FQ badge. Options for the UK Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW).
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In simpler terms that you may be able to grasp, re-read your Wikipedia page, and understand that not only does Mistubishi call their car a Lancer Evolution, it is a Lancer modified to a higher trim and power level, as an SRT-4 is a Neon built to a higher trim and power level.
Here are Pictures. They may also aid your comprehension. Just like in 1st Grade.
See Vince learn. Learn, Vince, learn. See Lancers same. Same, Vince, same!
Lancer
Lancer Evolution X
I love debating with you, Vince. You do all the hard work for me. It could not be easier than this to make someone look foolish
Point of thread: Camaro > Evo.
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Taken from your chosen source, Wikipedia, but altered to improve your apparently poor comprehension (reading > you)...
All use two litre, turbocharged engines and four-wheel drive systems the Evolution was based on the same unibody as the Lancer sedan.
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thats funny. lancers are not turbo.... evo's are. just because something is BASED off the same platform, does not make it the same car. according to your logic. then the d class would be a volvo and a ford and a mercury. all based off the D platform. yet they dont resemble each other.
keep trying to make yourself look right. instead ill use your method.
you are not making any good points and its past your bedtime. get some sleep.
i just feel bad that you suffer from IMS... (http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=53725) i feel bad that you come here to deal with it. but hey way to show your maturity level... or lack of.
