Not really surpriesed. Escalade customers expect it to be more than a Tahoe, the Aveo is a POS, and the Colorado is a rebodied Isuzu. Isuzu used to be a good product but went downhill in the early/mid 90s.
what are they compairing these cars against? Like what does a Mercedies or something get score wise? One thing I have learned from marketing is you can make anything look bad or good depending on what you compare it too.
That list is a bunch of crock lol.
all made in north America... what a surprise
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Chevrolet Aveo
Segment: Compact Car
CR Predicted Reliability Score: Poor
CR Value Score: Not rated among the worst in overall value
CR Safety Score: Not rated among the worst in overall safety.
CR Overall Score: 36 out of 100
J.D. Power Dependability Score: 2 out of 5 Power Circles
MSRP: $11,965
this is what happens when you let korea design your car.....
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mitdr774 wrote:Not really surpriesed. Escalade customers expect it to be more than a Tahoe.
You said it all.
I have spend some time in various escalades. They are actually quite nice to live with. If you are expecting a dressed up pickup.
Most buy them for the wheels.
meh. a biased slant eye probably did the voting.
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LOL. Consumer Reports strikes again! I cancelled my subscription years ago. They should stick to can openers and TVs, as automobiles are way out of their comfort zone.
Nothing new here.
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isnt CR the ones that found the Samurai would roll over easy, if subjected to test conditions that no other vehicles were subjected to (because it was designed to make it roll over) and that the side tanks in GMC trucks would explode in a side impact.......if a flare was lit under neath it right before impact???
mitdr774 wrote:isnt CR the ones that found the Samurai would roll over easy, if subjected to test conditions that no other vehicles were subjected to (because it was designed to make it roll over) and that the side tanks in GMC trucks would explode in a side impact.......if a flare was lit under neath it right before impact???
I believe the GM trucks exploding with a flare was NBC, but point very well taken.
mitdr774 wrote:isnt CR the ones that found the Samurai would roll over easy, if subjected to test conditions that no other vehicles were subjected to (because it was designed to make it roll over) and that the side tanks in GMC trucks would explode in a side impact.......if a flare was lit under neath it right before impact???
They have been developing a reutation for complete smear journalism where cars are concerned, yes. I don't know specifics on the cases you mention, but in general, CR's automotive escapades are really destroying their long-standing good reputation for unbiased, concise reviews. They are cheapening their brand badly...I'd advise them to just leave cars alone before they sink their own ship.
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what's sad is that the average reader doesn't realize these things. i had a business teacher who told us he never made a purchase without consulting CR beforehand, including his automobile. needless to say, he drives a Toyota Sienna.
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RuggedZ wrote:what's sad is that the average reader doesn't realize these things. i had a business teacher who told us he never made a purchase without consulting CR beforehand, including his automobile. needless to say, he drives a Toyota Sienna.
sounds like a sheep to me
yea, that whole read felt like a local Honda fanboy wrote it. and how can they test the reliability of a brand new car? it hasnt had the time to prove itself. hell, I'm sure the first gen Cavaliers were rated as poor.. so explain why my '85 Z24 had 400k miles on it, and withstood burnouts, racing, off-roading, and mudding (I was 18 and didnt realize how fragile my car was "supposed" to be.. lucky me)
I dont really look into these reports that much, but did they really get scrutinized for things like rolling a Samurai and purposely making a gas tank explode?
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The New LYC (Evan the Undead) wrote:RuggedZ wrote:what's sad is that the average reader doesn't realize these things. i had a business teacher who told us he never made a purchase without consulting CR beforehand, including his automobile. needless to say, he drives a Toyota Sienna.
sounds like a sheep to me
yea, that whole read felt like a local Honda fanboy wrote it. and how can they test the reliability of a brand new car? it hasnt had the time to prove itself. hell, I'm sure the first gen Cavaliers were rated as poor.. so explain why my '85 Z24 had 400k miles on it, and withstood burnouts, racing, off-roading, and mudding (I was 18 and didnt realize how fragile my car was "supposed" to be.. lucky me)
I dont really look into these reports that much, but did they really get scrutinized for things like rolling a Samurai and purposely making a gas tank explode?
I stand corrected on the gas tank, it was a news agency that did it. I have not checked yet but from what I recall it was CR that made the faulty test to "prove" the Samurai was roll over prone.
I love how Toyota is still out-selling GM..
I always said I would rather have a car that can't stop, then a car that can't start. lol.
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lone_wolf wrote:I love how Toyota is still out-selling GM.. I always said I would rather have a car that can't stop, then a car that can't start. lol.
As long as they remaain willing to give them away with monster incentives, its not hard to boost sales and steal market share.
Selling product at a loss is not a sustainable business plan, however. The real tale will be told over the long haul.
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z yaaaa wrote:meh. a biased slant eye probably did the voting.
then why's the aveo on the list?
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Because Constupid Reports wrote it. Toyota is GOD to them.
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Because Constupid Reports wrote it. Toyota is GOD to them.
and I suppose GM is GOD to you...
No, actually
all Domestics are GOD to me. It's kind of a Holy Trinity, this Big Three!
But, my opinions are finally validated by current events. For once, the media is attacking product other than domestic, so, the tide has finally turned. It's damned good to see, and well overdue.
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Because Constupid Reports wrote it. Toyota is GOD to them.
So obviously you haven't seen them tell people to stay away from the Lexus GX460 then huh? If Toyota was god they would just blow it off...
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