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New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:42 PM
Along with a new set of "extra-code" recently pushed into Beta testing which will include a GUI setup of water injection, switchable fuel and spark tables(ie: street and track maps) independent of staged injection, Integral Boost Controller using a PWM electronic wastegate(No purpose built industry support yet for valves but will soon), 2nd O2 sensor input, complete nitrous control system, EGT logging directly from N or K thermocouples, Tachometer output signal(compatible with wasted-spark), Knock Sensor input(native to pre-extra code MS-II but now with alot more test criteria and pre-programmed knock handling algorithms). All of these systems will have a GUI setup in Megatune and will allow you to set parameters to initiate the component(ie: nitrous or boost control), some of the basic test criteria used by megasquirt to compare against will include RPM, TPS, MAP, and the coolant temperature, among others that may be system specific. Other little GUI adjustible goodies is LED outputs for shift lights and other criteria based triggers for the cabin. ie: idiot lights are now possible to be added or tied into the factory gauge cluster lights.

The most important and newest addition to the MS-II is the new Router Board. This new Router board offers trigger wheel decoding, cam position sensing, sequential FI and COP. This Router board opens the door to independent cylinder control for fuel and spark which will create a progression from DIS to independent coils/COP without the addition of any other components such as external trigger wheels to our motors. The Router board also enables the use of megasquirt on a Q4 motor without the use of an older DIS ignition driver or any ignition driver for that matter since it does its own trigger wheel decoding and dwell calculations.

The advent of this Router board to a MS-II on a OBD-II enabled 2200, 2.4, ecotec means the megasquirt can tie directly into the FACTORY crank trigger and cam positioning sensor and take complete control over SEQUENTIAL fueling and complete spark and coil control. The same goes for older ODB-I motors with the addition of a cam position sensor.

Edit: The knock sensor input with the new extra-code will include the ability to turn on or off knock sensing with some basic criteria like RPM and MAP. Also will be the ability to adjust the magnitude of retard/advance upon first/last knock, respectively. Also, magnitude of advance when no knock is present, and many many others.

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Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:12 PM
FREAKING SWEET. I can't wait to see guys start using this!



Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Friday, June 08, 2007 9:29 AM
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Integral Boost Controller using a PWM electronic wastegate(No purpose built industry support yet for valves but will soon),


Josh, there are factory GM vehicles with PWM control of wastegate including the turbo Grand Prix, the Syclone / Typhoon, and the turbo Sunbird and Grand Am engines. There are also plenty of industrial valves which can be used for this job.

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Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Friday, June 08, 2007 12:20 PM
^I learn something everyday, however I should have been a little more specific. I was talking more about after-market support like Tial among others making external wastegates using PMW technology to control valve position.

A little update, the Routerboard is quickly heading away from the MS-II and more towards a competing open source standalone system so we will see its developments in the near future and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for the CANBUS implementation of the Routerboard for the MS-II.
Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Friday, June 15, 2007 12:11 PM
The router board is crap without software that can take advantage of the extra inputs. Believe it or not, the board has been in development for the better half of two years now. Developing the code behind it to support our OBD2 ignition control modules will take just as long if not longer than the development for the board itself.

Don't get your hopes up. Besides, using the OBD1 ignition control module isn't that big of a deal anyway.




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Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:12 PM
Tachometer output signal(compatible with wasted-spark)


oh thank god. do you know how much it sucked getting that damn thing to think it was seeing four cyls.


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Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Saturday, June 16, 2007 3:59 PM
Pute, the router board has been around for some time. As for lack of software support for extra inputs it really doesn't matter since it would piggyback the MS and the MS has plenty anyway, with software support. I think you missed the biggest advantage of the module.....you no longer need ANY ignition module to run ignition. The router board plays the role of the ignition module which is the biggest advantage. Yes, the odb1 isn't that big of a deal but still more than just hooking up this board to the MS via CANbus network and setup the parameters, honestly not any less work but has advantages like sequential fueling.
Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:21 PM
wait the ms always had a control modual for timing didnt it?


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Re: New MegaSquirt Options for MS-II and what it means to us!
Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:25 PM
Yes, ms could always drive coils but it can't decode a crank trigger wheel, without the new router board setup. The ms needs an ignition controller to be hookup to tell the ms when to fire a coil and when to start calculating dwell and such. The router board can now allow the ms to do all of that.....now theres nothing but one more sensor hook up into the ms and now you got ALL the control of the ignition.....including getting away from wasted-spark flawlessly.
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