tried searching. anyone got a good site on how to shave things on your car or just how to do some body work? like trim off the side mouldings etc. i'm talking the works. a walkthrough with pics would be great.
maybe someone has a link? thanks in advance!
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First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
sorry, you should have expected that tho.
On a serious note, i dont know of any sites about how to do body work, but bodywork is pretty simple.
Scuff the area being repaired with like an 80 grit sand paper,
Mix Filler with hardner,
apply filler over area being repaired with a flat spreader,
wait for it to dry sand with 80 grit to get it all worked out,
and then with 180 or 220 to smooth out all of the sanding scratches and feather the edges out,
check for low/high spots,
apply more filler if needed,
prime,
paint,
enjoy.
To shave the badges, just pour some goo gone or oops over the badge to soke into the glue and then peal it back slowly. Then just rub the glue off with your thumb. A heat gun also works, but be careful not to heat the paint up too much or it will bubble. The same for sidemoldings.
Hope that helps, and if you have anymore questions just let me know.
Don't use body filler to shave. If you want it to hold up, weld the holes shut, and then bodyfill over that...
95CaviRider wrote:First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
sorry, you should have expected that tho.
On a serious note, i dont know of any sites about how to do body work, but bodywork is pretty simple.
Scuff the area being repaired with like an 80 grit sand paper,
Mix Filler with hardner,
apply filler over area being repaired with a flat spreader,
wait for it to dry sand with 80 grit to get it all worked out,
and then with 180 or 220 to smooth out all of the sanding scratches and feather the edges out,
check for low/high spots,
apply more filler if needed,
prime,
paint,
enjoy.
To shave the badges, just pour some goo gone or oops over the badge to soke into the glue and then peal it back slowly. Then just rub the glue off with your thumb. A heat gun also works, but be careful not to heat the paint up too much or it will bubble. The same for sidemoldings.
Hope that helps, and if you have anymore questions just let me know.
WOW
i didn`t know it was that easy...lol....to remove name plates body side moldings use a wide flat scrapper slowly cut the name plate or body side moulding off
then use a earser wheel on your drill to remove any double faced tape or use reducer or thinner or use a heat gun and remove the tape
to do any metal work and reshaping of metal do a template then cut out the metal
cut fit cut fit on the car until it is shaped i like to tig weld better then mig welding
you get a better and cleaner weld
but hey wtf do i know
can i haz bondo
95CaviRider wrote:First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
you beat me to it, i was so ready but at least the first reply was the one that ripped him, lol
but ya what they said is what you need to do, Except before you use reg body filler depending on how big of an area to fill you should use some cat hair filler, or the hairy body filler, otherwise know as fiberglass, lol, hope this helps, later
if you have any questions email me i can help ya, not thinkin so well right now, just woke up, later
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^^ wow. is that ALL body filler?
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Alex Yingling wrote:^^ wow. is that ALL body filler?
was that headed toward me, later
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big daddy wrote:95CaviRider wrote:First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
sorry, you should have expected that tho.
On a serious note, i dont know of any sites about how to do body work, but bodywork is pretty simple.
Scuff the area being repaired with like an 80 grit sand paper,
Mix Filler with hardner,
apply filler over area being repaired with a flat spreader,
wait for it to dry sand with 80 grit to get it all worked out,
and then with 180 or 220 to smooth out all of the sanding scratches and feather the edges out,
check for low/high spots,
apply more filler if needed,
prime,
paint,
enjoy.
To shave the badges, just pour some goo gone or oops over the badge to soke into the glue and then peal it back slowly. Then just rub the glue off with your thumb. A heat gun also works, but be careful not to heat the paint up too much or it will bubble. The same for sidemoldings.
Hope that helps, and if you have anymore questions just let me know.
WOW
i didn`t know it was that easy...lol....to remove name plates body side moldings use a wide flat scrapper slowly cut the name plate or body side moulding off
then use a earser wheel on your drill to remove any double faced tape or use reducer or thinner or use a heat gun and remove the tape
to do any metal work and reshaping of metal do a template then cut out the metal
cut fit cut fit on the car until it is shaped i like to tig weld better then mig welding
you get a better and cleaner weld
but hey wtf do i know
Omg I agree with you on something!! I too was not aware that body work was that simple. Granted over time and with practice and proper training it does get easier...
DO NOT FILL THINGS WITH BODY FILLER, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND WELD IT.
Yeah... there is a reason that people go to COLLEGE/TRADE SCHOOL and PAY to learn these things... it's NOT as easy as people think to do body work and painting. You have to be trained in the proper techniques, and what to look AND feel for. A lot more goes into it than people think. I really hate it when just any joe schmoe thinks that auto body and paint is so simple a monkey could do it. - partial credit goes to Dustin (1bad02cav). He also agrees with this statement and first said "HEY there's a reason people pay to go to school to learn these things!" And I was like "yeah! I should post that!"
(I've been SUPER busy and stressed out with putting this car show together... I was gonna say that but got sidetracked lol)
yeah I'm about to give you all the knowledge I have.....
1: Body filler is made to be applied at the max of 1/8 of an inch. ANY MORE THAN THAT will crack and ruin all your time and work. Body fill is only made for precision work and perfection
2:Tiger hair (known as fiberglass) is body fill but 3 times harder. It consists of fiberglass strands and gelly type substance. The Hardner (tube that comes with it) acts as a substrate to help the system become hard.
This is a good product to use for holding things in place like hood scoops and extra. Not good for filling in gaping holes.
3: THE ONLY WAY to SHAVE door handles, ant., tail lights, and extra is buy welding. If your going to go about welding practice first. There are 3 different types of welds you can do. They all must be practiced and learned.
To give you basic idea on welding is only this. Use a mig welder OR tig if you prefer. A mig welder is wire fed and contains gasses such as argon. A tig is similer to a mig only the elctrons from the gases cause the metals to form. MIG is the best use for body work.
When but welding (welding two metals flat together such as this ] [ you would want to hold the metals slightly apart (2/36th inchs apart) and tack all for corners....
To tack means to weld two peices of metal together at a given spot.
then tack every inch an a half from thoughs. This keeps the metals cool and keeps the metals from warping (becoming to hot and becoming dicolored and weak) Then run a soling bead (conitous weld) to each tack making sure to not let the metals become hot.... If you can see the other side of the welds and see them bleeding through then you have become a welder.
After welding is done grind off the concurve welds down to a flat surface. Depends on how the mock up and extra was done you may have to heat and shrink the metal and beat it with dollies and metal working hammers. TOTALLY ANOTHER SUBJECT
Now that this process is done you can use bondo or tiger hair to smooth surface to perfection. ....
HOPE I HELPED!
I ment to say 2/16th inches apart
i would have to agree body work def takes some skill, but i also have to say that to this day i have not set foot inside a school for body work etc. better yet i have taught myself over the last 5 yrs, starting when i was 15 to become a perfectionist with cars, with this in mind you dont have to go to school to do this stuff and be good at it, practice makes perfect, mistakes make you stronger, i have learned many lessons the hard way when it comes to cars and custom fabbing, thus all this will help me when i do set foot in school in the fall for auto collision to learn more bout what i dont fully know, anyway, def if you dont have to fill something in with bondo hair or whatever WELD it, welding is your friend, if you dont know how to weld, buy a mig welder and practice with it, hope this helps, later
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big daddy wrote:95CaviRider wrote:First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
sorry, you should have expected that tho.
On a serious note, i dont know of any sites about how to do body work, but bodywork is pretty simple.
Scuff the area being repaired with like an 80 grit sand paper,
Mix Filler with hardner,
apply filler over area being repaired with a flat spreader,
wait for it to dry sand with 80 grit to get it all worked out,
and then with 180 or 220 to smooth out all of the sanding scratches and feather the edges out,
check for low/high spots,
apply more filler if needed,
prime,
paint,
enjoy.
To shave the badges, just pour some goo gone or oops over the badge to soke into the glue and then peal it back slowly. Then just rub the glue off with your thumb. A heat gun also works, but be careful not to heat the paint up too much or it will bubble. The same for sidemoldings.
Hope that helps, and if you have anymore questions just let me know.
WOW
i didn`t know it was that easy...lol....to remove name plates body side moldings use a wide flat scrapper slowly cut the name plate or body side moulding off
then use a earser wheel on your drill to remove any double faced tape or use reducer or thinner or use a heat gun and remove the tape
to do any metal work and reshaping of metal do a template then cut out the metal
cut fit cut fit on the car until it is shaped i like to tig weld better then mig welding
you get a better and cleaner weld
but hey wtf do i know
Omg I agree with you on something!! I too was not aware that body work was that simple. Granted over time and with practice and proper training it does get easier...
I dont know if those comments were saying i was wrong, but i think they were. I Wrote basic instructions for someone to get started with, The one step i did miss, was to use a hammer and dolly to knock out the dent as best as possible, or if it isnt possible to use a H & D then use a stud gun and pull the dents with those and then apply filler to smooth it out.
I have been doing body work for about two years now, and i am currently going to school for collision repair. Im not trying to say that i know everything, because i know that i dont, but fixing small 1 - 2 hour dents is pretty easy to do.
I also didnt say to shave things with body filler. Almost everything on my car is shaven or in the process of being shaved, and i have cut out templates, and mig welded (dont know how to use tig yet) them all on, then used filler to even it all out. It's almost impossible to pull a large dent without using filler, and i know it is impossible to shave something with out using filler..... unless you use lead.
95CaviRider wrote:[quote=¤§Fallen Angel§¤]big daddy wrote:95CaviRider wrote:First get the razor and the shaving cream, then put the shaving cream on the area being shaved, then put the razor to that area and gently apply pressure, then slowly move the razor up or down depending on which way the blades are facing.
sorry, you should have expected that tho.
On a serious note, i dont know of any sites about how to do body work, but bodywork is pretty simple.
Scuff the area being repaired with like an 80 grit sand paper,
Mix Filler with hardner,
apply filler over area being repaired with a flat spreader,
wait for it to dry sand with 80 grit to get it all worked out,
and then with 180 or 220 to smooth out all of the sanding scratches and feather the edges out,
check for low/high spots,
apply more filler if needed,
prime,
paint,
enjoy.
To shave the badges, just pour some goo gone or oops over the badge to soke into the glue and then peal it back slowly. Then just rub the glue off with your thumb. A heat gun also works, but be careful not to heat the paint up too much or it will bubble. The same for sidemoldings.
Hope that helps, and if you have anymore questions just let me know.
WOW
i didn`t know it was that easy...lol....to remove name plates body side moldings use a wide flat scrapper slowly cut the name plate or body side moulding off
then use a earser wheel on your drill to remove any double faced tape or use reducer or thinner or use a heat gun and remove the tape
to do any metal work and reshaping of metal do a template then cut out the metal
cut fit cut fit on the car until it is shaped i like to tig weld better then mig welding
you get a better and cleaner weld
but hey wtf do i know
Omg I agree with you on something!! I too was not aware that body work was that simple. Granted over time and with practice and proper training it does get easier...
I dont know if those comments were saying i was wrong, but i think they were. I Wrote basic instructions for someone to get started with, The one step i did miss, was to use a hammer and dolly to knock out the dent as best as possible, or if it isnt possible to use a H & D then use a stud gun and pull the dents with those and then apply filler to smooth it out.
I have been doing body work for about two years now, and i am currently going to school for collision repair. Im not trying to say that i know everything, because i know that i dont, but fixing small 1 - 2 hour dents is pretty easy to do.
I also didnt say to shave things with body filler. Almost everything on my car is shaven or in the process of being shaved, and i have cut out templates, and mig welded (dont know how to use tig yet) them all on, then used filler to even it all out. It's almost impossible to pull a large dent without using filler, and i know it is impossible to shave something with out using filler..... unless you use lead.
I wasn't saying you were wrong... you just made it sound (body work in general) a lot easier than it really is. It does take skill and hands on experiences with a professional at least to know what to look for and what you're doing. I knew nothing of your background personally, I just at times tend to get a little irritated when people come on here and think that body work and painting is the easiest thing in the world to do. There have been people on here who think it takes no skill and training at all... and act like a monkey could do it. I just hate people comming on here acting like auto body and paint techs don't really have any skill and that the work is easy. I apologize if it seemed like I was comming off as you were wrong (if that was directed at me).
I don't mind people comming in here asking for advice for simple stuff... I just don't like when people come in here and know NOTHING of body work and painting and want everyone to make a step by step explination of processes for stuff that takes years of training to do... like "Help! I smashed the whole passenger side of my car! How do I fix it!?! I have no idea of what I'm doing".
Again, if that came across wrong and your comment was directed at me in any way... I apologize.
^^^^ no hard feelings, i understand where your coming from, it aggravates me too when people do that, i can see where the simpleness of my walkthrough would make it look like i was saying it was easy, and i even said that it was pretty simple, when i should have said it is pretty simple after you have some experience. I just didn't know how your comment along with big daddy's comment was directed, so i just wanted to get everything clarified.
