So some of you may remember the post i made about how i ripped the paint off of my door when we removed my side mouldings. well recently we've had some crappy weather and today i went outside and noticed some rust starting to form on the metal, so tonight we sanded the bare metal area's down to clear the rust off and spray bombed it with some primer. and now i have some hideous grey area's have any suggestions to keep it from rusting again or will this suffice until a new paint job?
also i'd like to paint over it to try and match the color of my car so cover it up, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
any suggestions?
----------------------------------------------------------------
yea, that will work for now.
I would gave the paint a while to cure in a warm environment (if possible,) but after that you could always cover it in vinyl. It won't match your car PERFECTLY, but it'll stand out a helluva lot less than gray.
um no the primer will not work, primer absorbs moister after it dries so if it rains again it will just absorb more water and rust again
then what should i use then blackplague
----------------------------------------------------------------
so spraying some matching spray paint over the primer would be a bad idea? i remember somebody saying not to use spray paint on a car, but since it'd be a light coat over the primer would it be okay? i was also suggested using some touch up paint, but i frowned on that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------
when you get your car repainted they will hafta strip the primer and any paint you put on there off in order to get it to adhere to the car
well i figured i'd either spray on some sandible primer rather than let it rust.
and i shouldnt even of said about that spray paint, i just want to cover it up.
and pretty soon i'll be sanding down the entire car and getting it ready for a friend of mine to paint, so what will i have to do to get the primer off?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Blackplague wrote:um no the primer will not work, primer absorbs moister after it dries so if it rains again it will just absorb more water and rust again
hes absolutley right, it will work for now but you will want to get paint/clear on it asap
okay what kind of clear can i use, can i use rattle can clear stuff?
this is only a temporary thing, it will be painted soon.
----------------------------------------------------------------
well... automotive primers won't really absorb moisture unless you scratch/sand the surface... it's actually quite water repellant until you do that... don't know much about spraybomb though. (don't really use it)
Just make sure you get it painted ASAP
i dont have the money to get it painted right now, how long can i depend on this primer to last me? can i keep refreshing the spots with new primer or what until i can afford a paint job?
----------------------------------------------------------------
either just get the door repainted or you should of just threw the side molding back on
Why the hell can't people around here just answer a simple question? Every time I come on here I see the same dicks posting bull@!#$ replies about spending more money rather than helping someone by answering a question.
He asked if he used the spray primer how long will it last. Pretty damn simple. Stop telling him what you would do with your endless bag of money.
The spray primer probably won't hold up a month. Depending on the moisture/temperature. If it's going to be a while before you get a full paint job, just resand that primer if it starts showing rust and respray it. Nothin wrong with sprayin some color match either, it won't last very long either but looks better than a big grey spot. Still might end up sanding it and redoing it in about a month, but that's not too much work since it'd be a light coat of rust.
If you and your buddy are going to paint the car in a couple months be sure to spend some extra time on that area before you paint.
^^THANK YOU. that was pretty much everything i needed, except for what kind of color spray were you talking about?
[quote=ßãggéÐÇåv98 (Ûñqùðtäߣè Øñé)]either just get the door repainted or you should of just threw the side molding back on
to get the door repainted it'd be $200 (that i dont have) and the side moulding was destroyed (thanks to my little helper who tried the rip-off technique and ruined my paint job)
----------------------------------------------------------------
blackwidowz24 wrote:Why the hell can't people around here just answer a simple question? Every time I come on here I see the same dicks posting bull@!#$ replies about spending more money rather than helping someone by answering a question.
He asked if he used the spray primer how long will it last. Pretty damn simple. Stop telling him what you would do with your endless bag of money.
Maybe some people don't know the specifications of EXACTLY how long spray bomb will last.
Maybe the proper fix that will actually last does actually take money... imagine that!! A car repair that costs money?? No way!! I thought all car repairs were free!!! /sarcasm
It's not like anyone came on here and said the only way to keep it from rusting was to have it gold plated. Getting a door repainted doesn't cost THAT much that it would warrant an "endless bag of money".
Personally... what irritates me is people that don't know what they're talking about give people horrible advice that could potentially cause more damage because their uncle's friend's brother's wife's sister's cousin said that this particular thing was the right answer.
Hrothgar> none of that was directed at you, so please don't take any offense...
sand the area and use some regular paint on it to kinda color match your car
primer is a corse paint and the moisture will soak through , it will slow it down , but isnt a good fix
more so if its gonna take a while before you actually paint the car
using a color paint will be enough to seal it so it will hold up longer , and give you time to paint it correctly
none taken i'm just really confused as to what to believe
----------------------------------------------------------------
Well like I said... I don't know specifications as to how long or how reliable spray bomb primer is... they don't teach you that in a shop, because 99.999999% of shops won't use it.
The actual AUTO grade primer... when done properly, won't allow moisture through. My car was primered for almost a year before I painted it, and I never had any rust problems. It was smooth as anything, and water will bead off of it, UNLESS you sand it... then the primer absorbed moisture.
So... how about this. I don't have a paint gun at the moment, I know people that have them. I'm going to send you a PM Hrothgar with my number in it. Give me a call, and we'll work something out so I can help you get this solved and protect it or paint it or whatever so it doesn't get worse... and since everyone and their brother doesn't keep confusing you with conflicting details...
Here from some one that works in a bodyshop and will give it to you straight. Scratch filler & primer (Spray can) Contains acetone, methyl ethyl ketone propane butane ethyl 3-ethoxypropionate talc toluene etc etc etc blahh anyways ethoxypropionate is a form of glue which drys with air. It will only fill in scratchs no more then 1/6" deep can primer is good only for can paint If it's a quick fix your looking for then use the can primer but add the paint as soon as possible for the look and as a sealer. water will go into the primer and hit the metal causing rust. Painting over rust gives the rust a new home to play in..later down the line if you want to go to a shop and get it paint the right way you will end up paying a bit more Because of the can paint applied : it gums up sand paper and makes a mess for the prepper/bodyman to have a good surface to work with. But even with spring here now i don't think the rust will be that bad just as long as you don't leave the car in primer
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4235/jim25ek.jpg
well here is someone else that works in a shop, fixes cars day in and day out
ok dude basicly the rattle can primer is not goin to protect nothing what you did was a waste of your time and money
ppg makes a self etching rattle can primer that i do use on certain situations, and then my sealer base clear
around here it won`t cost to much more but it will take more time to get off what you put on
so in closing the rattle can primer should not have gone on the car
and please do not put more rattle can paint over what you did all your askin for is more problems
save your money and get the door repainted
can i haz bondo
well the rattle can primer DID go on the car and has been holding up fine so far, the water beads off of it and doesnt soak up. i'm not going to spray color on it. when i can get some money around Nikki (Fallen Angel) is going to primer and paint the door for me because she knows what shes doing and offered to help me out. so thanks everyone who gave their advice.
----------------------------------------------------------------
I'm definitely not knocking anyone's advice because I have about zero knowledge of body work. But I can tell you from my own personal experience that when the tailgate of my ex's Blazer had a decent sized spot that was down to bare metal I did the same thing you did. I threw down some standard rattle can primer. Maybe I got lucky, but that little bit I did held up through one full winter month (this was when I was still living in Pittsburgh, PA) with no problems whatsoever. It made it to the body shop with no rust, they worked their paint magic and the tailgate was back to 100%.
