Hey all of you paint masters...aka Big Daddy and Fallen Angels. I got a new front bumper cover, cuz mine had a big hole in it, and I will be painting it, dont worry, I halfway know what is going on, hehe...lol...the last time I painted a single panel, actually it was a front drift bumper for a cougar, it was a metallically silver, and it didnt match very well, and all of us know that reds, whites, reds...are hard to get to match/blend. Now I was wondering, of course I will be using PPG products, when I paint the front bumper if it will match with the rest of the car. It is a 96 cavalier z24, red in color. If it will stick out pretty bad, I will get the local shop to paint match it, but if it wont stick out like a sore thumb, then I will go ahead and paint it. Thanks all.
Depends on the weather its seen.. depending on the weather conditions its seen, it could be lightly faded or could be faded pretty bad. The new paint will definatly be darker, you could probably easily pick that out.. but you know about it, Someone who doesnt know about it or pay close enough attention could end up never seeing it. If your worried about it sticking out have them paint match it. Cuz you cant always tell what your going to get. But if u just want it to match for the most part and don't care much, then dont worry about paint matchin it. I'm sure the "paint masters" will somewhat agree.. its kinda hard to tell over teh internet what could be the result with not being able to actually look at it.
But i've only had a year of auto body so maybe im completely wrong.. but maybe they can correct me if so.
Fst Cavy wrote:Hey all of you paint masters...aka Big Daddy and Fallen Angels. I got a new front bumper cover, cuz mine had a big hole in it, and I will be painting it, dont worry, I halfway know what is going on, hehe...lol...the last time I painted a single panel, actually it was a front drift bumper for a cougar, it was a metallically silver, and it didnt match very well, and all of us know that reds, whites, reds...are hard to get to match/blend. Now I was wondering, of course I will be using PPG products, when I paint the front bumper if it will match with the rest of the car. It is a 96 cavalier z24, red in color. If it will stick out pretty bad, I will get the local shop to paint match it, but if it wont stick out like a sore thumb, then I will go ahead and paint it. Thanks all.
first off wise choice on ppg, second this is hard online
not just the colors you singled out are hard to match any color is hard to match that why there is time to blend panels, are you going to be using ppgs dbc system?? if yes it had a better chance of matching but it will never be a dead match, will never happen espicially on red
personally if your only "half sure" on painting then let some one else do it for you if you want to take on the task here is what i would --------------take off the gas door take it to you local supplier and ask them to get the color close, if you paint in a garage humidity plays such a huge role in painting it will cause it to not dry as fast in some cases make the base darker sometime lighter
using the 15 degree rule in painting is a must!!! I.E. if it is 70 in the booth use 85 temp reducer in base in clear
manta z is correct---the car is faded forget about it matching if you are that concerned about it blend the hood blend the fenders if your not have the supplier get it close paint the bumper and be done with it
can i haz bondo
big daddy beat me to it again... lol
Pretty much what he said (although I'm a DuPont gal myself lol).
Reds are tricky, because they ARE hard as heck to match.... period.
Honestly, if you know what you're doing, blend the front bumper into the adjacent panels... then you don't have to worry as much about it matching. I personally (when replacing panels/bumpers/etc prefer to blend into the adjacent panels just to be safe)... and mainly because there's so many factors that go into it. ESPECIALLY with reds and whites. Whites are a pita too.
Lighting, can also throw off a paint job... what types of lights you're using, how much light you have...the more experience you have the easier it is to compensate for such things, but since it sounds like you're not the most experienced, err on the side of caution and blend away!!! If you're not too comfy with blending, you can always have someone else do it, or shoot me a PM if you want some pointers and I can do my best to help you out... but it is difficult without having the car in front of me lol.
Everyone has different methods of blending too... My old boss (who'd been doing body and paint for about 25 years) usually had me do the blending jobs (I'm an artist by nature). I was taught to blend out from the repair area, yet the "painter" (if you want to call him that) at my old job was taught to blend in. He did a paint job on a $52,000 car and effed it up, I redid it and it turned out BEYOOOTIFUL... if it wasn't for the fact that he sabotaged my paint job because in his words "chicks don't belong in body shops, garages, or anywhere near a car"... meh... oh well. He was a douche anyway.
Ok... I'm going to end my tiredness ramblings (not used to getting up at 5:30 am). If ya need anything, feel free to PM or something...
BTW... I'm totally flattered you mentioned my name in your post
*blushes*
Fst Cavy, a little bit of a thread jack, but just barely if you don't mind. figured I would post in here since the discussion is on blending.
I have an '02 GM Bright Red Cav. it's an AZ car, so it's seen a lot of sun and heat. I'd like to take off the moldings and badges. would the paint under the molding and badges be difficult to blend into the other paint? what about using a good rubbing compound or something, and buffing it? any advice would be totally appreciated, especially from the paint pros.
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Z24 FReQ (Jarett) wrote:Fst Cavy, a little bit of a thread jack, but just barely if you don't mind. figured I would post in here since the discussion is on blending.
I have an '02 GM Bright Red Cav. it's an AZ car, so it's seen a lot of sun and heat. I'd like to take off the moldings and badges. would the paint under the molding and badges be difficult to blend into the other paint? what about using a good rubbing compound or something, and buffing it? any advice would be totally appreciated, especially from the paint pros.
Have you taken off the molding and badges to see how faded the paint is?? Can't really help ya out until we find out how faded it is.
Either way, if you know what you're doing, it's not difficult at all (at least from my standpoint, then again I've been doing this for years).
If you're talking about the badges on the hood, trunk, and side molding on the fenders, door and rear quarter... then you might as well almost repaint the whole car. The only places (If I'm remembering right) that wouldn't have any of those to be removed would be the bumpers and roof. If you're going to have to reclear that much anyway... it's more "efficient" to just repaint the whole car. (Should be able to get away without painting the roof... provided you have them color match your paint as close as possible.)
thanks so much for the advice. I think I am going to wait until I have the cash to repaint the whole car. I have a few little dents and dings that need to be fixed anyway, and the repairs will probably have to be painted over as well.
again, thanks.
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