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Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:49 AM
Ok maybe some one can help me out! I am testing out paints for my car and have 4 different once here. All of them at a DBU paint that i have to mix myself at my auto parts store. That is the easy part. What i dont know yet (and boss is gone for a month) is what kind of reducer and hardener i need. How much paint to how much reducer and how much paint to how much hardener do i need?

If ANY ONE can help me by monday it would be great. i want to spray a little with a friends air gun. If you guys need more info i have it all right here in frount of me.




Re: Paint supplies
Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:04 PM
normally the can will say what to use.. usally will say hardener with a #.. which is the part number.. If not ur paint supplier wil lbe able to look it up for you.




Re: Paint supplies
Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:53 PM
this is all me mixing paint from all sorts of otehr paints. its not a basic blck, red, yellow, etc... its called gunmetal poly ... it has metallic flake added, pearls, and like 5 other colors ... the formula sheet doesn't say as to what stuff to use. ill jst have to wait until i can talk to my boss.



Re: Paint supplies
Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:23 PM
any paint will have a recommended hardener and reducer needed.. is it paint u custom mixed and made a name for? if all the paints were same type and same brand, all u have to do is use the recommended hardener and reducer that, that brand says..





Re: Paint supplies
Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:06 PM
yeah i got him the #'s he needed..it was a ppg deltron dbu paint



Re: Paint supplies
Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:16 PM
sorry i couldnt help u more kyle..




Re: Paint supplies
Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:01 PM
some paints dont need a hardner some you just reduce 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 some paints if you need a activator/hardner i know with nason from dupont its 2 parts paint to one part reducer to one part hardner
Re: Paint supplies
Monday, October 23, 2006 4:23 PM
if your saying you have the dbu system that is ppg
dbu is a old technology like over 10 yr old material, but still a decent product
i highly recomond using ppg`s dbc system, i will get to that later in this response
ok so the dbu system used the dp sealer and it used 250 primer, the clear it really didnt matter
but you can use the new ncs sealer and the ncp primer and the dcu 2042 and 2021 clear, not a problem, but the dbu system is very thin and the mettalic is not as haevy as the dbc system, so a basic red in the dbu will take more coat to cover then the dbc system usally take 2 to 3

so the ratio on it is 1 to 1 1/2 drr reducer, DRR=reactive reducer it acts as a hardner

now on to the dbc system the pgment is allot thicker the mettalic is thicker and matches the OEM mettalics allot better, still uses the powder pearls, so this system is allot faster, more productive, and easier to use
the base ocat does not need to be flexed dbu system did, the primer filler is corrosion resistant, ole skool primer is not, the sealer lays out flat no shine and smooth compared to the dp sealer, you can still use the dp sealer it will not hurt but ppg does not recomond using it with the dbu system

ok so anyway....... it also uses the DT reducer for the whole refinishing process, hence why it is easier to use
so the ratio for dbc is base coat=1;1, now since this system uses the dt reducer it is a non activated base coat now there is a product called dx57 which makes it a activated base coat aids in laying down heavy pearls and mettalics also aids when you do graphics, and PPG says it is chip resistant, the front of my car has only 3 chips in it just to give ya a example the ratio for that is 1;1 to 5% dx 57
the clear is 2042 or 2021 i recomond using for the best gloss and durabilty
i will finish with that any more questions just ask



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