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Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:23 PM
One of the projects I'd like to accomplish over the next few months is rust prevention on the GT to insure it will stay looking good for years to come. I am looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention to use on the underbody, in the wheel wells behind the wheel well liners and on the inside of the car in the trunk and under the carpet, among other places. I was thinking Rhino Lining, but it appears that it is only sold to dealers and not to individual consumers.

If anyone knows of any high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention out there, please let me know about the product and where I can find it.

Thanks in advance.








Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:26 PM
theres a spray... 3m makes it...




Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:29 PM
Drake wrote:theres a spray... 3m makes it...

Yeah, I've seen that at Wal-Mart, but I am thinking a roll on might be easier and probably less messy. I will definitely keep this in mind though if I don't find anything else. Thanks .







Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:16 PM
POR15.. its paint on. not rubberized tho.. Its what i planned on using.. friend that used it said it doesnt have a odor so i was gonna use it throughout the interior and trunk, aswell as the underbody, wheel wells, and some suspension components. If it is a area that is in sunlight u will need to put a topcoat on it which is like a protector.. but everywhere i planned on using it is either under the car or will be under sound deadening..

http://www.por15.com/

i dont know if u watch Trucks! on SpikeTV but they used this on teh frame of a S10 they were workin on.. plus u can get it in small containers so u dont worry about opening a big gallon and it start to harden in the can..



btw.. any particular reason u wanted rubberized?





Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:21 PM
manta Z wrote:POR15.. its paint on. not rubberized tho.. Its what i planned on using.. friend that used it said it doesnt have a odor so i was gonna use it throughout the interior and trunk, aswell as the underbody, wheel wells, and some suspension components. If it is a area that is in sunlight u will need to put a topcoat on it which is like a protector.. but everywhere i planned on using it is either under the car or will be under sound deadening..

http://www.por15.com/

i dont know if u watch Trucks! on SpikeTV but they used this on teh frame of a S10 they were workin on.. plus u can get it in small containers so u dont worry about opening a big gallon and it start to harden in the can..



btw.. any particular reason u wanted rubberized?

Hum... sounds interesting... I'll have to look into the Por15 further...

Thanks for the info .







Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:41 PM
I've used POR15. It's expensive, but it's meant to be painted over rust (hence the name POR) and once it's applied anc cured, it stops rust dead in its tracks and it's practically indestructable. I'm going to be painting the rockers and what not on my car when I fix the body damage for that very reason. 200K miles of harsh Iowa winters does wonders to a car's metal and POR15 is the antichrist of rust protection lol. If you use it, make damn sure the entire surface it's being applied to is clean and completely dry. And whatever you do, don't let any moisture - water, rain, sweat, your beer, dog slobber, whatever - get into the product. If it does, the entire can is ruined and you'll have to get another. Theis stuff is designed to repel moisture when it's cured, but in a liquid state it's like a spong and will suck up moisture instead. This is why I recommend

A: buying it in smaller containers, you can buy it by the pint or by the gallon, get the pint size, Worst case scenario, you ruin a pint instead of an entire gallon.

B: doing this in conditions that will prevent moisture from getting in the product. Cool weather, maybe in the shade or air conditione dgarage so you're not sweating your arse off, wear long sleeves and gloves, even a hat or a sweatband, whatever you have to do.

It can be rolled on, brushed on, and I'm not entirely sure, but I think it can be sprayed on too. I've only used rollers and brushes though so I'm not entirely sure about that one.



Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:33 PM
just get ur car Rhino lined , i know Eastwood carrys undercoatings so check them out , and if u want to order with Eastwood let me know and i can just drive to there store here in PA


ShowOff Customz
03 Cavalier
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68 Fairlane 500


Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:05 AM
This isnt a bad idea... I might have to add this to the project list!



Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:12 AM
Joker 0387Escort wrote:just get ur car Rhino lined , i know Eastwood carrys undercoatings so check them out , and if u want to order with Eastwood let me know and i can just drive to there store here in PA


I would agree with you about the rhino liner.. but I prefer Line-X ... Rhino sometimes can be peeled off if you pick at it hah ( used to work at Line-X and had to do repair jobs sometimes it sucks )


Thanks
Shaun
www.ShowStopperTuning.com

Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:22 AM
im sure if you get your trunk Rhinoed it would help out with having a box cuz itll act like a sound deadner and might even be better. i had thoughts of useing rhino or line-x on my 87 EXP so that it wouldnt rust


ShowOff Customz
03 Cavalier
73 Beetle
68 Fairlane 500


Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:17 AM
Lizardskin; the stuff is 1) heat resistant, 2) sand able and paintable, 3) can act as a soundeadener, 4) waterproof, 5) can be sprayed anywhere on the car to act as a "undercoating" / protect ant, ect, ect. The stuff is great!

You can check it out at www.lizardskin.com

By the way, and this is just my two cents, I do not believe that POR-15 is a good avenue of approach. Much like one of the previous responses to this thread said, POR-15 is used more along the lines of the treatment / covering of rust; not a as a means of prevention. On the other hand, Lizardskin is meant to work in the exact scenario in which your going to undertake. Consult the website, and I think you will agree it is what you are looking for.

Good luck with your project.


Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:32 AM
topper wrote:Much like one of the previous responses to this thread said, POR-15 is used more along the lines of the treatment / covering of rust; not a as a means of prevention.


its meant for rust protection/prevention.. they claim that it just adheres better to a slightly rusted(surface rust) surface then bare grinded down metal.. Like on teh frame i saw them using it on.. they wirebrushed the frame and got most of it off but there was still slight remains of surface rust because thats what they said it adheres better too.. but POR15 also makes cleaners and their "Metal Ready" as quote here can also be used
Quote:

METAL-READY� provides the best adhesion for POR-15� on any surface, including aluminum and shiny polished metal surfaces.


Quote:

POR-15, Inc., the World�s leading manufacturer of permanent rust preventive coatings, has announced they expect to achieve ISO 9001 Certification by the fourth quarter of 2006!....


Yes lizardskin is also good.. but for someone like me without a place to do all that to be able to spray the car with the stuff, a brush on application is a lil more controlled.. Lizardskin u have to spray on.. POR15 is a paint on.. meaning its something simple u can do inside the car.. outside on the side of the street(in my case) if needed

But thanks for bringin up lizardskin i forgot about them.. i believe a older episode of Trucks!(with Stacy) they used that also on a frame.. and Painted it i think..(Crazy Horse maybe?)

btw if i can find it.. we used POR15 on my buddies frame on his sky high lifted 2500.. and he was hitting the stuff with a ball pin hammer and it wasnt doing any damage to it [POR15 coating] I know i made a video of it somewhere ill see if i can find.






Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:02 PM
I am sorry, but I forgot to mention that lizardskin can be rolled onto any surface. Just bare in mind that you must adhere to manufacturer recommendations as far as the thickness of the application. Which I believe it is about the thickness of a credit card.

As far as spraying the stuff; its a relatively thick product, and either you can mock a "paint booth" in your garage by sealing the car inside with some large sheets of plastic and tape. And because it is thick the potential for overspray is low. At least when compared to common automotive paints and primers.
Re: Looking for high quality, roll-on, rubberized rust prevention
Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:18 PM
Sounds like you can apply it with a brush.
Sound Control Application
Quote:

LizardSkin® SC is being used by custom car, street rod, truck builders and RV owners who want to reduce unwanted noise and/or enhance the sound of their high end audio systems. It is best applied by special spray gun to a clean and dry primed or painted rust-free surface. Typical applications include firewalls, floor pans, transmission tunnels, doors, hoods, trunk lids, under headliners, inside fenders, panel van walls and other areas which generate vibration and noise. It may be painted if desired, with no loss of acoustic performance.

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