I come out to find my car the other morning with my wing half ripped off my car and laying on the ground. Now this really pi$$ed me off. Why would someone do this. The trunk lid is fine. Just the wing is destroyed. The company that makes the wing is out of business and I was only one of 4 that I knew that had it. So I would ask the fiberglass experts if it is fixable. What my plans are is to remove the top layer(which is already ripped off) and just have the bottom peice and just have the little side wing pieces that come up. I think it would look pretty hot.
Here is a picture of the wing before so you get the idea. The first picture is from the time it was in the bodyshop last summer when vandals smashed out my rear side little window and did a bunch of damage. I just wanted to show a picture of the wing with the dual layers. Can i make it strong or stronger then before it was wrecked?
As it sits now.
wow, man that sucks... i dont know if that can be figreglassed strong enough, unless you reinforce it with something... i dont know if you can work any bolts or studs into there...
damn man. depends how hard you plan on being on it. you may be able to make it strong enough. fiberglass is tough though in my opinion, to work with that is
do you have the other piece if so very fixable if not well its going to be hard the get the same shape as the other tip of the wing along with the other top wing type thing.
but could be fixed.
Paul Tjepkes wrote:do you have the other piece if so very fixable if not well its going to be hard the get the same shape as the other tip of the wing along with the other top wing type thing.
but could be fixed.
As you can see the top layer and the missing corner are sitting on the chair in the second picture. So I do have all the pieces. But do you think it can be fixed? thing is I dont have any fiberglassing skills.
Well in that case yes very fixable.
where are you located ? if you close i will help you out.
Other wise just sand it all down where you going to be laying fiberglass probably 80 grit. after you have it all sanded.
Then i would just mix up some resin lay it as if you were going to glue it together where it broke then clamp in together let it dry and cure. after its bonded together your going to want to add some strength back to the area it was broken in.
So you would need some fiberglass cloth, resin, harden for the resin, and body filler you will probably spend some where around $50-$70 for that stuff.
after you have these thing you mix up you resin lay a light coat where you are going to be laying the fiberglass after you have put some resin on the spoiler then lay you fiberglass cloth on the resin you just put on while still wet after laying the cloth using a brush. brush more resin over the cloth. you will most likely want to lay more than one layer.
After doing all that and letting it dry and cure sand it down and put your body filler where needed and sand it smooth.
then paint and done.
If you have no experience with fiberglassing then this might be a bit tough to fix....if you bring it to a body shop, it looks like an easy fix really.
big poppa wrote:If you have no experience with fiberglassing then this might be a bit tough to fix....if you bring it to a body shop, it looks like an easy fix really.
x2, or go into ur regional forum and make a post if any fellow jbo members who know how to glass will do it for you or atleast help you out to do it.
Paul Tjepkes (N/A MADNESS) wrote:Well in that case yes very fixable.
where are you located ? if you close i will help you out.
Other wise just sand it all down where you going to be laying fiberglass probably 80 grit. after you have it all sanded.
Then i would just mix up some resin lay it as if you were going to glue it together where it broke then clamp in together let it dry and cure. after its bonded together your going to want to add some strength back to the area it was broken in.
So you would need some fiberglass cloth, resin, harden for the resin, and body filler you will probably spend some where around $50-$70 for that stuff.
after you have these thing you mix up you resin lay a light coat where you are going to be laying the fiberglass after you have put some resin on the spoiler then lay you fiberglass cloth on the resin you just put on while still wet after laying the cloth using a brush. brush more resin over the cloth. you will most likely want to lay more than one layer.
After doing all that and letting it dry and cure sand it down and put your body filler where needed and sand it smooth.
then paint and done.
fiberglass cloth is useless. especially one layer of it. you need at least 2-3 layers to equal one layer of mat
also, i would never use resin to try and bond it back together on the seams.
well what else are you going to use to bond it together. the only thing i have heard of.
I know the guys that showed me the hows on fiber glassing just use cabosil mixed with resin to get the thickness of toothpaste and just put it in there and bond it together.
they make airplanes so you would think they know what there doing.
That the only thing i have heard of but i would like to know what else you could use so please tell me what you use.
Thanks,
Paul
Well the first thing i'm going to have to figure out is how to bond it back together. I was thinking of like using like windshield urethane to bond the corner back on and into place. Or maybe if someone else could suggest something else. Then I can use fiberglass to glass the edges back together and hopefully make it as good as new. Like I mentioned above I'm going to leave the top layer off. So hopefully it shouldnt be to difficult.
Paul Tjepkes (N/A MADNESS) wrote:well what else are you going to use to bond it together. the only thing i have heard of.
I know the guys that showed me the hows on fiber glassing just use cabosil mixed with resin to get the thickness of toothpaste and just put it in there and bond it together.
they make airplanes so you would think they know what there doing.
That the only thing i have heard of but i would like to know what else you could use so please tell me what you use.
Thanks,
Paul
well i think either u misinterpreted what i wrote or i wasnt clear enough, lol....prolly wasnt crystal clear, but i meant i wouldnt use just resin to bond it without mat. like for example i would probably bond it with 3m panel bond inside just to hold the structure tight, then glass with mat over that. not sure if you are speaking of fiberglass mat and just saying cloth. but there is a difference between the fiberglass cloth and fiberglass mat. cloth would take double the layers to equal the thickness and strength of mat. sonce the cloth is like a weaved fabric and the mat is random strands that interlock with one another when resin is added.
just as another example, when i build say a sub box out of glass, i make my shape out of material stretched over the frame. then i add a layer of resin and let it dry. this gives your basic structure. then i add roughly 7-10 layers of mat to the inside for strength. then when i am pretty confident it is sturdy enough, i usually like to add a layer of the cloth to the outside of the structure. prolly unneccesary but just a little thing i like to do. this way i know my fabric is "encased" in glass. the cloth is nice for this because it is thin and very pliable for different shapes. its very easy to lay down and saturate.
did that make sense? kinda long winded, lol
^^^right....most people think 7 layers of cloth = 7 layers of mat
more like 11-12 layers of cloth = 7 layers of mat
but time wise i can lay the cloth so much quicker than the mat. i just hate using so many layers, lol
guess its a catch 22
Joey Baggs (Eazy716) wrote:Paul Tjepkes (N/A MADNESS) wrote:well what else are you going to use to bond it together. the only thing i have heard of.
I know the guys that showed me the hows on fiber glassing just use cabosil mixed with resin to get the thickness of toothpaste and just put it in there and bond it together.
they make airplanes so you would think they know what there doing.
That the only thing i have heard of but i would like to know what else you could use so please tell me what you use.
Thanks,
Paul
well i think either u misinterpreted what i wrote or i wasnt clear enough, lol....prolly wasnt crystal clear, but i meant i wouldnt use just resin to bond it without mat. like for example i would probably bond it with 3m panel bond inside just to hold the structure tight, then glass with mat over that. not sure if you are speaking of fiberglass mat and just saying cloth. but there is a difference between the fiberglass cloth and fiberglass mat. cloth would take double the layers to equal the thickness and strength of mat. sonce the cloth is like a weaved fabric and the mat is random strands that interlock with one another when resin is added.
just as another example, when i build say a sub box out of glass, i make my shape out of material stretched over the frame. then i add a layer of resin and let it dry. this gives your basic structure. then i add roughly 7-10 layers of mat to the inside for strength. then when i am pretty confident it is sturdy enough, i usually like to add a layer of the cloth to the outside of the structure. prolly unneccesary but just a little thing i like to do. this way i know my fabric is "encased" in glass. the cloth is nice for this because it is thin and very pliable for different shapes. its very easy to lay down and saturate.
did that make sense? kinda long winded, lol
Can you guys stop with the bickering back a forth please. I'm getting some good information about what you guys are talking about but the subject is getting out of hand with to many posts.
So my first step it to bond it back together. There was two recommendations one of 3M Panel Bond and cabosil with resin. this will be the most important step. I will talk to my uncle about it b/c he is a body man and I think I have herd that he has used the panel bond before. I will talk to him about it.
Now. Once i get this thing bonded back into position. how am i going to patch all the edges together so that it's smooth and fairly easy to sand for prep and paint for the body shop. I would assume that fiberglass mat would be the way to go. Anyone elaborate.
Regards,
i think your question has been answered already buy a couple of people that know what there talking about. either A. if you dont know what your doing then take it to a body shop they should be able to fix it no problem. or B. if you do know what your doing. then use fiberglass mat instead of cloth. to glass it back together. but first bond the pieces together with panel bonding adhesive.
my last post was not a bickering post, it was mearly trying to explain what i meant the first time around as i was a bit unclear in my wording.
sorry to try and help.
ps - your question has been answered
Joey Baggs (Eazy716) wrote:my last post was not a bickering post, it was mearly trying to explain what i meant the first time around as i was a bit unclear in my wording.
sorry to try and help.
ps - your question has been answered
My favorite thing is when you know what you're talking about, and people argue with you over the knowledge you possess and say you're stupid because you don't agree with them... not saying that's gone on in here... just saying because I'm bored. Oh... and when people don't see that their question was answered even though It'd been answered 100000 times and ask for answers...
I think the cleaning fumes are getting to me...
Joey Baggs (Eazy716) wrote:my last post was not a bickering post, it was mearly trying to explain what i meant the first time around as i was a bit unclear in my wording.
sorry to try and help.
ps - your question has been answered
Sorry for the confusion joey. I appriciate your advise. I'm going to talk to my uncle who is a body man about the bonding of the panels back together which is the first step.
