im going to end up getting my car painted.. The color i want is flat black or a satin black. i figured macco could do it sense its not glossy or anything... anyones opinions? just a thought waiting to get new bumpers and things first.
some have had good experiences with MACCO, but honestly I'd stay away from them and go to a reputable shop. at least 80% of the time their paint jobs end up looking like crap in a year or two adn don't last...
I'd had to fix cars that had gotten paint jobs from there in the past, one had no primer over the metal, just paint.
Sure, there are the rare exceptions of Macco's actually having good management who cares about QUALITY over QUANTITY, but most of them worry more about how MANY jobs they can do, rather than the quality.
Remember, you get what you pay for.
just primer your car with some cans, it will turn out about the same
Moar Candy! LAWL wrote:just primer your car with some cans, it will turn out about the same
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There is a big difference in the outcome between maaco and a reputable shop.
Go with a better shop, and ask for base coat/clear coat. It'll look like crap after a year (especially if there's cat around), unless you have a garage.
Joe Ruark wrote:im going to end up getting my car painted.. The color i want is flat black or a satin black. i figured macco could do it sense its not glossy or anything... anyones opinions? just a thought waiting to get new bumpers and things first.
You get what you pay for, and Maaco isn't my idea of quality.....not to say it's a bad job, but it won't be as good of a quality as a more reputable shop....expect a 65 to 75% job
just spend the money and get a good paint job , too many people are doin there cars flat black anymore and its gettin to be anoying . im runnin the "rat rod" look on my car only cuz im into hot rods and rat rods and that life style . everyone elses reason is cuz its cheap and there to lazy to get it painted right. if u wanna be cheap then go to the hardware store and buy a case of flat black and spray it ur self
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i think i am going to keep it white the way i have it just need to repaint.
even still, don't get maaco. your askin for trouble. they're not gonna get the door jambs so you'll most likely have flaking around the edges of your door and other, what they may call, "un-noticeable" areas, and/or you may get paint where you DON'T want it. there will be an uneven coat, maybe even some runs around the lower portion of your ride. and overall you're just gonna be pissed at yourself for trying to save a buck.
maaco=baaaaad way to go.
Sorry, I realised that I didn't specify. With flat alot of places might try to go with single stage (no clear). Single stage looks bad if it gets scratched at all, but there is a flat clear coat.
single stage still has clear. alot of guys that do flat or satin colors just use a base coat and thats all . single stage paints can have the flatner added , its the same with laquer once dry its glossy
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Single stage means there's no second stage.... clear coating. Maybe you meant gloss? I was saying that flat isn't your average paint job, so the painter will probably get a single stage flat black from their source, since they have flat (or matte) in the name.
yeah, single stage is single stage.....granted some people will spray clear OVER a single stage job.....but it is meant to be one layer.
And flat clear > flat color.
i know my paint since i do auto body, and i know what Single stage paint is , single stage contains a clear to give it the gloss look , and i know what base coat and clear coat is as well . what you guys dont understand is that MOST of the guys that have flat colors are JUST useing a base coat WITH OUT a clear of any kind
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You are talking about a single stage paint, with a "wet look hardener", which is not the same as having a clear coat.....unless you are going by Earl Shieb standards.
I agree lots of people who have flat finishes, go with a single stage flat color, and no top coat.
But what I am saying is that it looks better, and is more durable to do a base/single stage color, then apply a flat clear top coat.
thnaks for clearing everything up Chip Foose
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and how long ave you been in the auto body field ?? unless u own ur own shop and are lead painter throwing out award winning finishes they u dont know jack @!#$
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I have been dabbling in the autobody filed for the past decade or so.
Although I gotta say.....I aint diggin the new attitude
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Single stage is just that... single stage. But single stage does NOT mean "only basecoat"... single stage paint is a paint that contains a sort of base/clear mixture, meant to be sprayed in one stage, instead of the base/clear method.
Single stage will fade faster and not be typically AS durable as a base/clear paintjob, and base/clear paintjobs typically have a much better UV protectant as well. UV rays are what contributes more than anything to paint fading over time, single stages do not have that same level of protection...
...unless a ton of things have changed since I did autobody/paint a few years ago...
and John Benham is correct, a "flat" paintjob (which is MAINLY base coats with no clear coat), are NOT as durable, as clear coat provides a lot more protection for paint jobs than most realize.
Also, not caring for the clear coat will lead to the base coat being damaged/fading much earlier.
I apologize if anything in this post wasn't clear, I'm not feeling well, I'm bored and can't sleep.
