i have body damage that i was welding new metel in when my boss said i couldnt do it at work so im stuck with it looking like @!#$.so does anyone know if i can buy this panal anywhere and how much.color doesnt matter ima paint it when bodywork is done.
thats your quarter panel...... and thats alot of work to replace. Its not like it can just be unbolted
exactly. theres a TON of spot welds to be drilled out. its gonna be a pain in the ass. have fun welding it back in. and MAKE SURE ITS STREIGHT before you start welding. close thetrunk. make sure the trunk lines up. close the door. make sure the door lines up. if you have to. prefit the bumper also. .as stated its a LOT of work. and as for finding one. you can find one from the junkyard. have them cut it where you think your going to section it in. i do suggest sectioning it in the sail panel area seing as how the roof overlaps the quarter.and youwill most likely mess up the roof trying to getthe spot welds out of that area.also. youcan get the whole panel from GM if need be. i dont think there to horribly expensive (250 bucks)
my question is why did you drill holes to pull a dent?? i can understand if the panle is goin to be replaced thats fine, but this looks like its fixable all day long, and if my memory serves me correct there should be enough room from the inside of the 1/4 to work out the dent, and if not there are spot welding guns that wled a nail to the metal and its pulled out with a dent puller
you may as well finish it now if your boss is tellin you you can finish well your @!#$, but i would fix it, and bondo doesnt stick to sanded paint it needs a grinder to stick clean metal, replacing a 1/4 is no easy task like that dude said, glass has to be removed, all parts removed, allot of spot welds, ya need either a spot weld removing bit or a unibit to drill them all out, plus dont forget all the caulk around the seams gotta go, the panle bond has to be removed its holding the 1/4 on too
and by the looks of what iam seeing, your asking what this pannle is, 2. you drilled holes in a fixable panle, 3. looks like you dont knnow what your doing so your @!#$
can i haz bondo
big daddy wrote:my question is why did you drill holes to pull a dent?? i can understand if the panle is goin to be replaced thats fine, but this looks like its fixable all day long, and if my memory serves me correct there should be enough room from the inside of the 1/4 to work out the dent, and if not there are spot welding guns that wled a nail to the metal and its pulled out with a dent puller
you may as well finish it now if your boss is tellin you you can finish well your @!#$, but i would fix it, and bondo doesnt stick to sanded paint it needs a grinder to stick clean metal, replacing a 1/4 is no easy task like that dude said, glass has to be removed, all parts removed, allot of spot welds, ya need either a spot weld removing bit or a unibit to drill them all out, plus dont forget all the caulk around the seams gotta go, the panle bond has to be removed its holding the 1/4 on too
and by the looks of what iam seeing, your asking what this pannle is, 2. you drilled holes in a fixable panle, 3. looks like you dont knnow what your doing so your @!#$
hey big daddy i didnt drill the holes in my car they were there when i bought it and it was used for a dent puller.oh and btw i no what im doing im a sheetmetel fabricator so i no how 2 weld so if u dont like me or think i dont know what im doing just dont respond 2 my @!#$.
thats fixable. but i would efineatly have a body shop do the work. you do not need a new QP. get a quote done. i am thinking somewhere in the 1200 range. which isnt shabby
YEAH I THINK THATS WHAT IM GOIN DO WHEN I GET A CHANCE...MAN IN THE PIC IT DONT LOOK TO BAD ..LOL
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kyle brooks wrote:big daddy wrote:my question is why did you drill holes to pull a dent?? i can understand if the panle is goin to be replaced thats fine, but this looks like its fixable all day long, and if my memory serves me correct there should be enough room from the inside of the 1/4 to work out the dent, and if not there are spot welding guns that wled a nail to the metal and its pulled out with a dent puller
you may as well finish it now if your boss is tellin you you can finish well your @!#$, but i would fix it, and bondo doesnt stick to sanded paint it needs a grinder to stick clean metal, replacing a 1/4 is no easy task like that dude said, glass has to be removed, all parts removed, allot of spot welds, ya need either a spot weld removing bit or a unibit to drill them all out, plus dont forget all the caulk around the seams gotta go, the panle bond has to be removed its holding the 1/4 on too
and by the looks of what iam seeing, your asking what this pannle is, 2. you drilled holes in a fixable panle, 3. looks like you dont knnow what your doing so your @!#$
hey big daddy i didnt drill the holes in my car they were there when i bought it and it was used for a dent puller.oh and btw i no what im doing im a sheetmetel fabricator so i no how 2 weld so if u dont like me or think i dont know what im doing just dont respond 2 my @!#$.
ok so if your a fabricator then why dont you know what the name of the panle is???, and why are you askin here how to fix this then???
mmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder
can i haz bondo
Hey Kyle, I thought i woul help you out and give you an Honest answer.
With me being a certified welder i have ran into this twice before. The first time was with my old 1993 Sunbird and i replaced the quarter panel the way GM would do it by drilling out the spot welds. It was a little bit of trouble but i was up to the challenge. Believe me it isn't as hard as some might think. I purchased a brand new quarter panel from GM for around $240.
The second time was with my 1996 Cavalier that i currently have. but this time i got a really good quarter panel from a junk yard for $100, the junk yard actually cut up the whole quarter of a car for me.LOL. Either way i still did it the same way i did it before. With doing it this way it does kinda help if you have an extra person helping. BTW I'd like to thank my Dad (J.R. which is name on here.)
Now since you have a 4door I'm not sure how much it will run you for a New or used quarter panel, but i thought i would give you a rough estimate on what it will run.
Ok here are some pics of what I've done.
This is the 93 Sunbird
I don't know if you can tell but this is the only pic of the bird with the new quarter.
And here is the work i have done on my 96 Cavalier.
JBO Member since 2006.
That pic is perfect. I have a self inflicted dent right where the two little openings to the interior are (about halfway down the door)
Kardain wrote:
That pic is perfect. I have a self inflicted dent right where the two little openings to the interior are (about halfway down the door)
that turned out sweet man thanks for the help.
and btw im finishing the bondo and painting it this weekend and ill post pics.its not going to look perfect but hey the car is a beater.
big daddy wrote:kyle brooks wrote:big daddy wrote:my question is why did you drill holes to pull a dent?? i can understand if the panle is goin to be replaced thats fine, but this looks like its fixable all day long, and if my memory serves me correct there should be enough room from the inside of the 1/4 to work out the dent, and if not there are spot welding guns that wled a nail to the metal and its pulled out with a dent puller
you may as well finish it now if your boss is tellin you you can finish well your @!#$, but i would fix it, and bondo doesnt stick to sanded paint it needs a grinder to stick clean metal, replacing a 1/4 is no easy task like that dude said, glass has to be removed, all parts removed, allot of spot welds, ya need either a spot weld removing bit or a unibit to drill them all out, plus dont forget all the caulk around the seams gotta go, the panle bond has to be removed its holding the 1/4 on too
and by the looks of what iam seeing, your asking what this pannle is, 2. you drilled holes in a fixable panle, 3. looks like you dont knnow what your doing so your @!#$
hey big daddy i didnt drill the holes in my car they were there when i bought it and it was used for a dent puller.oh and btw i no what im doing im a sheetmetel fabricator so i no how 2 weld so if u dont like me or think i dont know what im doing just dont respond 2 my @!#$.
ok so if your a fabricator then why dont you know what the name of the panle is???, and why are you askin here how to fix this then???
mmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder
i didnt say i fabricated on cars moron i said i was a fabricator not that i new it all but just my job title and it will turn out how i was expecting it.maybe its you that needs banished
FYI i posted an instructional shop repair guide earlier this year and it included info on quarter repair. search this forum for threads started by me and youll find it.
so if it was a beater car and you were jsut going to bondo it up anyways why did you ask how to replace the whole 1/4 if it's abeater then who give a f*&^!
i didnt know if it would have been easyier to do it that way i was just looking for advice but there is no way i would try and tune this thing.btw here is an updated pic and its bout half done should have whole car painted this weekend with damage fixed.
Did you weld a piece of metal over your dent? LOL You hack. You did'nt have to. All you had to do was work the metal out some more and then mud it up. You still have to do more body work and now you just made more work for yourself. It's not that it's a beater thing, you could have gotten away with alot less work.
lol i know that now and no i cut out the old metel and welded new in.right now im trying to finish it and getting pissed but determained
its done and painted thanks for your support big daddy(haha not) but to the rest thanks for your help
its done and painted thanks for your support big daddy(haha not) but to the rest thanks for your help
dude, by that pic you need my help holy @!#$ that is hacked up,
"i didnt know if it would have been easyier to do it that way i was just looking for advice but there is no way i would try and tune this thing.btw here is an updated pic and its bout half done should have whole car painted this weekend with damage"
you said it your self your not a bodyman/painter/ your a fabricator/welder, we bodymen are fabricators, welders, painters, mechanics, we do everything, so once again your asking for help i gave you my advice of a 20yr journeyman, i know what i would have done you went the route of the butcher, sorry but its what i see
let the guys who do this trade for a living give you advice if ya cant take it then dont post stupid questions here and except a response when you respond in a manor that makes you look like a know it all when your not
can i haz bondo
man honestly the door is hacked but i didnt repaier that and i dont know it all man ive been in the fabrication trade for 3 months but i got tired of waiting for help so i decided to do trial and error on it.but i wasnt trying to be a dick with all this you just came across as a jerk so i just gave it back.
gotta love hack jobs.
You look so much cuter with something in your mouth.
for everyone saying it was a hack job the door was off a 2000 sunfire and i have a 96 so it didnt fit the best so yes the door is a hack job>:o
Doors on a 4 door are all the same from 95 - 04 or whatever year they stopped producing cavs and sunfires.
