Does this kit iclude everyting needed and will I need to re-map my ECU or whatever or does it come with a new one?
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If it's anything like the kit for the 2.4L, it will come with absolutely everything you need and you will have to bring the car to a GM dealer to get the ECU reflashed with the new program.
Providing a new ECU would be a big waste.
Yes, the kit comes with a reflash.
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WHAT, oh man i got jiped...
ya its a compleat kit, thats what GM does, its not jackson racing, rsm or whatever.
its GM, it has a warenty.
so after you wax some vtaks ass you can tell him that tomaro your taking it in for warenty work becasue its not running right.,
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
Taetsch Z24 wrote:WHAT, oh man i got jiped...
ya its a compleat kit, thats what GM does, its not jackson racing, rsm or whatever.
its GM, it has a warenty.
so after you wax some vtaks ass you can tell him that tomaro your taking it in for warenty work becasue its not running right.,
Chris
this is the funniest thing i've ever heard, and the truth is that its 100% true!
lol
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Do you have to maintain the S/C, like change it's gear oil now and then? Also, are S/C less strain on an engine than a turbo? I know the turbo's give the engine more power but it might not be worth it if you burn your engine out faster.
Also, does your mpg drop lower then a normally aspirated engine when you drive a S/C engine easy?
Thanks.
i get 35 hwy, 22 city, i change the oil on it every 30K, magson recomends it, GM says its not needed,
you deside.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
An S/C runs off the car's engine, so it needs some of the engine's power before it can produce it's own. A turbo, on the other hand, runs off the engine's exhaust gases. The downside to the S/C is that it robs some power to give power while the turbo has turbo lag before it can produce power.
With an S/C, some have found that its impossible to drive without hitting boost while others have had no trouble staying out of boost under normal driving conditions. I guess it depends on the application and the driver. With my kit (RSM Racing Stage I S/C kit for the Ecotec), all buyers before me that I've spoken to have had no trouble staying out of boost under normal driving. With a turbo, you may not see boost until the turbo spools up, which means that you can still drive normal without having to worry about hitting boost.
Blown.
I do understand that a S/C derives its compression ability from taking HP from the engine. Saying that that is not true of a turbo is not correct I think. The turbo exhaust turbine is quite restrictive and so it must take some power from the engine. The energy in the exhaust of a non-boosted engine is wasted out the tailpipe so the turbo is undoubtedly a more efficient method of boost, since it harnesses that wasted energy. A S/C engine still has much more wasted exhaust energy that a turbocharged engine. How many HP a turbo takes, I don't know, but I am sure someone versed in Thermodynamics can calculate that number.
I’d imagine the tailpipe temperature of a S/C engine would be higher than that same engine turbocharged. However since most things in life do not come without a cost, the turbocharger, operating in an extreme environment, must be maintained more diligently than a S/C.
I think I will have to find my Thermodynamics textbook and research these topics a little deeper.
Old Wolf wrote:I do understand that a S/C derives its compression ability from taking HP from the engine. Saying that that is not true of a turbo is not correct I think. The turbo exhaust turbine is quite restrictive and so it must take some power from the engine.
There is no taking of power from the Engine when there is a turbo setup. Remember, a turbo is an external piece to the motor, so really, it has no type of relation to the motor (physically). Your motor exhaust flow determines how much & fast your turbo spools. The turbine of a turbo wouldn't be restrictive at all because as the exhaust flow leaves the motor, exhaust is still leaving through the turbo down to your downpipe as well.
Old Wolf wrote:I’d imagine the tailpipe temperature of a S/C engine would be higher than that same engine turbocharged. However since most things in life do not come without a cost, the turbocharger, operating in an extreme environment, must be maintained more diligently than a S/C.
You're exhaust temperature would be higher on a turbocharged vehicle because it's recycling exhaust but trust and believe that a supercharger gets hot and sends in hot air as well, which will cause hotter exhaust temps and higher chances of heatsoaking. No matter what form of boost you go, your overall temperatures will be hotter.
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