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Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:36 PM
First of all, let me sate.... this car is NOT for sale... So don't block this thread thinking it is an ad... I am just curious what people might think it's worth...

It is a 97 z24 fully built to the nutts... Full tec3 Stand alone ECU, Custom billet cams, forged everything, Full Quaife Limited Slip Differential, etc,etc... Click below to see the full mod list...

http://www.streetsource.com/projectz/

The car is capable of 400+ HP. Has won many 1st place trophy's at large car shows.



above - fender color looks mismatched in this pic but it is actually the light playing tricks... it matches perfectly..












Kris Bloom
Street Challenge
http://www.streetchallenge.info
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/ <--- The Cav

Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:41 PM
You missed the 2 threads below that locked for asking the same thing didn't you? IBTL!!!!! Nice cavy btw!


-Brandon

Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:42 PM
Honestly, you'll get people saying to look in the kelly blue book

Mods don't change what the car is worth, unfortunately



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Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:44 PM
put it on eBay with a $50000 reserve, start the bidding at $1 and see what the bidding gets to.


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Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:45 PM
I don't see why this would be blocked... i am NOT selling it... i do not want offers... i am just curious... This site is for discussion... that's what i want... and as far as blue book, that is only true if you are selling it to a dealer... i have over $30K into the car... blue book is like $4,000... the ECU alone is worth that... that makes the car worth more just to part it out..lol




Kris Bloom
Street Challenge
http://www.streetchallenge.info
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/ <--- The Cav
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 3:47 PM
actually Grimor, that is a great idea... how much does ebay charge for that...lol




Kris Bloom
Street Challenge
http://www.streetchallenge.info
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/ <--- The Cav
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 4:00 PM
^^if you start it at 99 cents, the fee will be 35 cents, then add a gallery picture for another 10 cents. If it doesn't meet the reserve you do not have to pay final value fees. Also, setting a reserve costs extra



Rest In Peace, Saint.
Truth > God
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 4:07 PM
and unfortunately that would be the only way to really make back some of what you put into it... parting it out that is.
the highest private seller price you could possibly ever get, is between 10 and 15k.mind you, thats best case scenario... more than likely you'll have to end up asking less. dont get me wrong, i think its an awesome lookin z (i especially like the carbon flames, i mean how the flames are actually the carbon underneath the paint... cool man.) but i really dont see it getting much more than that, if even close to those #'s. and most people tend to look at the blue book as sort of a bible when looking for a used car. unfortunately for any tuner of our kind, the cars are worth more when parted out... they look and perform awesome, and who could ask for more than that?... but in the end they aren't really worth that pretty penny we all wish they were.

its a sweet one tho man



Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 4:15 PM
Kris Bloom wrote:i have over $30K into the car... blue book is like $4,000
Unless it's a turn-key show/race winner (i.e. I could buy the car and be pretty much guaranteed to win or place at a show or races consistently) the value of the mods mean nothing to the value of the car.
Kris Bloom wrote:the ECU alone is worth that... that makes the car worth more just to part it out..lol
This is the case with 99.99999% of the modded cars in the world, as discussed in 23947203946724572373 previous threads here. Parting it out, selling the car stock and selling the parts individually is the ONLY way you can get close to getting your mod money back out of it.






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Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 4:51 PM
In before the lock!






Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 5:45 PM
So what if the bids go up to $50,000? Then he has to sell the car




Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 5:51 PM
i would cry if i had to rip the car apart... i'd rather keep it and drive it till it blows up... Cars like this you really like to sell as a whole...




Kris Bloom
Street Challenge
http://www.streetchallenge.info
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/ <--- The Cav
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 6:18 PM
If you've in this game for selling the car when you're "done"... good luck!

Don't ever expect to "make" money modding an econobox. It just doesn't happen. Even Mull's car with $100,000+ into it, wouldn't sell for even half that.





Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 6:57 PM
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 7:34 PM
Quote:

(we are hoping to achieve over 400 WHP and 11's or faster in the 1/4 mile when the track opens in 2005)


Well???


- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
Member of J-Body Of Michigan.

Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 9:59 PM
Holy crap, the goat sold for 33K!!!!!!!!!!1

That's what a new stock one goes for.



Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Friday, June 02, 2006 10:16 PM
its worth whatever someone is willing to pay



Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:04 AM
Id give ya what KBB says.

Quote:

Selling A Car:
Selling a car isn't easy either. First figure out what your car is worth, bottom line. Nobody cares what you owe on it, or how many payments are left. They want true down to earth numbers of what the vehicle is worth. Just as with buying a car, take a look at each of the previously stated areas and figure out a price. Start with the Kelly Blue Book private party price for your particular vehicle, and go from there.

We all know you spent thousands of dollars upgrading your car, but I hate to tell you this, when you sell your car, its almost worthless. The reason that it is worthless is that the person who is buying it will almost certainly have to go to a bank to get a loan. When a bank figures out how much money they will give a person, they look in a small (in Wisconsin its yellow) book to determine a vehicles value based on make, model, body style, engine, and mileage. It doesn't say anything in there about that awesome stereo, $1000 body kit, $5000 paint job, $1200 rims, or $600 tires. Its worthless. The best advice to those who have upgraded your cars is to part it out, whatever you can, before selling it. Return it back to as close to stock as you can before selling it. That is the only way you will come even close to recovering any of the money that you have spent modifying your car.

Then, you have to sell it. Naturally the people who are wanting to buy it will want to talk you down, so let them. Slightly overprice your car by up to $1000, and let the people talk you down. Don't go any lower than what you determined the car to be worth. Usually selling your car to a private party will give you much more money than trading it in. Many dealers don't sell the cars that they take in on trades, they bring them to auctions and have them sold. Auctions don't always give a great price, so the dealer won't give you one on a trade for it either.


Overall, get advice from those who have done things like this in the past. Your parents are a great resource, as well as Kelly Blue Book. Check with local and state laws during the process. Make sure your car is legal to sell before selling it, and that the car that you are buying is legal to buy when buying one.







Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:10 AM
Not sure if this helps but a local guy sold a 00 fully built turbo neon( he had a built up srt-4 motor and trans.)
full kit, custom paint, air ride, and the car had like about 120,000 miles on it, not sure what the motor & trans. had for mileage.

anyways he just sold it for $11,200


hope that helps


laters





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Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Saturday, June 03, 2006 6:13 PM
Quote:

So what if the bids go up to $50,000? Then he has to sell the car


I would hope he would sell it for 50, if not hes crazy.



Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:13 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:
Quote:

(we are hoping to achieve over 400 WHP and 11's or faster in the 1/4 mile when the track opens in 2005)


Well???


Exactly you have pictures of the car on the dyno please tell what it did.



FU Tuning




Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:40 AM
I moved away from where the dyno is and have not had a chance to get it dynod again. But at 23 lbs of boost on race gas it will spin the tires at 60 MPH...




Kris Bloom
Street Challenge
http://www.streetchallenge.info
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/projectz/ <--- The Cav
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:54 AM
but you said you'd take it to the track last year - people want to know the results of that visit.




R.I.P. Brian St.Germain
Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:15 AM
aren't you the same guy that was a d***head with those "billet" cams?? the one that wanted to sell them for twice the price or regular cams?

All I've seen you do is talk but you never showed proof of anything. You claimed to have a 400hp car about 1.5 years ago. Yet no proof. No dyno sheet or anything.

Also being able to handle 400hp is nothing. Stock Ho's can do that. It doesn't add value to your car. Don't forget, it's still a cavy. You didn't change it in a rare vette or something else. It's a cavy with a body kit that as been beat to death. It's worth no more than the KBB value.



Gilles
2.3 Ho

Re: Actual Value - show/race cavi
Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:14 PM
I've got $1,000........ I'll let you keep the rims




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