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LD9 Timing Chain cover
Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:19 PM
Has anyone tried removing the PCV vent tube from the LD9 timing chain cover and replacing it with a AN fitting??






Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:27 PM
wouldnt be a problem give it alittle heat and pull it out, then weld on the bung, i will be doing this over the winter too...




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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 5:57 AM
I was actualy just thinking about this the other day. Would it be possible to pull it out and tap it for a fitting? I dont know anyone who welds aluminum and there arent realy any good shops around me for that.



Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 6:55 AM
icemike89 wrote:I was actualy just thinking about this the other day. Would it be possible to pull it out and tap it for a fitting? I dont know anyone who welds aluminum and there arent realy any good shops around me for that.


I don't mind having it welded on, but I am looking to see if I can tap it first.




Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 7:10 AM
I would think you should be able to tap it no problem.



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 8:18 AM
I know for a fact that comes out because I've had one fall out on me... lol

I don't see much of an issue tapping it and screwing a fitting in. Obviously you'll do it off the car!

I'm more curious about adding more bungs to the top of the chain cover...

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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 8:24 AM
I had no idea that thing came out, Id rather weld on a bung for a AN fitting myself.










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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 8:27 AM
Nice! I have to pick up a spare timing housing to have pc'd anyway. So who knos what tap and size thread fitting would work the easiest? Ive never had that nipple out and seen the housing, so is drilling it a little larger required or would a certain tap and npt-an fitting work fine?



Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 9:45 AM
besides having a better seal what would the benefit of this be?



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 9:50 AM
Yeah, I've done it. An XRP -6an or 8 dont remember is sitting in mine right now.

Just a little bit of heat and it comes right out.


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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 10:41 AM
Joshua Dearman wrote:Yeah, I've done it. An XRP -6an or 8 dont remember is sitting in mine right now.

Just a little bit of heat and it comes right out.


Welded or tapped?




Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 11:16 AM
z yaaaa wrote:besides having a better seal what would the benefit of this be?


Just for looks for me Maybe the high HP cars may have a need to put it there

I want to run AN line from the timing chain housing to the PCV baffle at the block and from the baffle to my HO intake.

When almost everything under the hood is braided stainless line, doing this makes things cleaner






Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 12:36 PM
ah. understandable.



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 1:31 PM
Yea I hate having a hose going from my timing housing to my catch can(pcv baffle is bypassed), ss line would look soo much better. Ill just buy a bunch of 8an ss line as I want it for my main hose for my vacuum manifold. Eventualy Ill do all vacume/ fuel connections in ss line as well

OT but anyone know if the large nipple on the back of certain 2.3 ho manifolds can be pulled out?



Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 1:47 PM
icemike89 wrote:Yea I hate having a hose going from my timing housing to my catch can(pcv baffle is bypassed), ss line would look soo much better. Ill just buy a bunch of 8an ss line as I want it for my main hose for my vacuum manifold. Eventualy Ill do all vacume/ fuel connections in ss line as well

OT but anyone know if the large nipple on the back of certain 2.3 ho manifolds can be pulled out?


Bybassing the baffle? Aren't afraid the PCV system won't properly now?



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 1:53 PM
Not a Expert per Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:
icemike89 wrote:Yea I hate having a hose going from my timing housing to my catch can(pcv baffle is bypassed), ss line would look soo much better. Ill just buy a bunch of 8an ss line as I want it for my main hose for my vacuum manifold. Eventualy Ill do all vacume/ fuel connections in ss line as well

OT but anyone know if the large nipple on the back of certain 2.3 ho manifolds can be pulled out?


Bybassing the baffle? Aren't afraid the PCV system won't properly now?


not really because really your doing the same thing as you be to running it threw the plastic baffle only running threw the baffle the oil collected it put back into the motor



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 2:10 PM
Yep. Been running like this for a while, the other hose off the catchcan is just an open breather filter since I dont realy have an intake setup. Then I also have a fitting tapped in my ho manifold for the pcv port that goes to a manifold vacuum with a check valve inline.

Last time I pulled the inake mani before I had the pcv head port vacuum made, my intake ports on my head were clean as a whistle.



Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Friday, December 18, 2009 6:23 PM
icemike89 wrote:
Joshua Dearman wrote:Yeah, I've done it. An XRP -6an or 8 dont remember is sitting in mine right now.

Just a little bit of heat and it comes right out.


Welded or tapped?


Welded. It works great.


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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:01 PM
Soo...

icemike89 wrote:who knows what tap and size thread fitting would work the easiest?




Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:27 PM
Good luck tapping it...warm investment cast aluminum...... I wouldn't try it, unless it was on a spare housing. I used a -10AN fitting, I just check today. I actually have 2 more XRP fittings if anybody else is interested. Also, the timing chain housing doesn't weld very well either since it is very porous and bleeds oils when you weld on a used housing....I even deep cleaned it in an automatic parts scrubber and I still had to stop several times.

EDIT: Also, when you tap it you are going to loose alot of cross-sectional area or flow area since now your going to have to stick threads in there.



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Sunday, December 20, 2009 11:58 AM
it works to tap it i had to bucuse my buddys fell out kinda weird


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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:30 PM
Joshua Dearman wrote:Good luck tapping it...warm investment cast aluminum...... I wouldn't try it, unless it was on a spare housing. I used a -10AN fitting, I just check today. I actually have 2 more XRP fittings if anybody else is interested. Also, the timing chain housing doesn't weld very well either since it is very porous and bleeds oils when you weld on a used housing....I even deep cleaned it in an automatic parts scrubber and I still had to stop several times.

EDIT: Also, when you tap it you are going to loose alot of cross-sectional area or flow area since now your going to have to stick threads in there.


So it might be a PIA either way then.






Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:16 PM
Yeah, pretty much. If tapping it works, go for it, I just wasn't willing to give up the flow area. Welding it was decent, just be sure to remember it will look weird when your welding it and that's only due to the contaminants. With welding it I have 5/8" flow area and I still plan on drilling that out as much as the fitting will let me which might be another 16th or a tad more.


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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:31 PM
Good topic and I thought about doing this myself.
I'll have to do some thinking about this now.



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Re: LD9 Timing Chain cover
Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:41 PM
yeah the cover is a very poor casting and will crack easy

if you are gonna tap it , go very slowly , and when you put the fitting in use liquid teflon and do not over tighten it







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