josh it is a mint set up screw everyone. I am also going to be going twin charged. i will be running alot more boost.
i want 20 psi out of the turbo. will there be an issue with me pushing out more boost out of the turbo than the supercharger can create.
and btw i found a 2.4 with a m62 manifold so if your lucky me and this dude might make some.
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cough bottle neck and super high iats, cough.
very low knock limit on pump gas cough
waste of time and money, cough
i am going to start buying all the stuff in a few days....... i will not install it until the alky, programming, and new fuel components are in. which will be in like two more weeks
exhaust is going on tomorrow, 2 1/2 piping(header back), obx ceramic header 4-1, 29in glass pack, cherry bomb muffler(looks nice n stock), rksport o2 simulator, remove the cat.......
that will prolly help my trap speeds big time
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ccfab wrote:cough bottle neck and super high iats, cough.
very low knock limit on pump gas cough
waste of time and money, cough
you are a douche, dont ruin another thread....
sinrocker: hope this works out great for ya...i wanna see the setup work on a higher boost application, you should look into a liquid to air intercooler to bring air temps down as much as possible
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ccfab u are a total loser that has nothin good to say
with iat will not a be a prob i will be running a cryo2 setup with the intake cooler, and a sprayer on the intercooler. and i will have alky injection sprayin into the charger..... why can't u just put in some input that doesn't make you look like a dirty taint....
the real question is..... if i have the supercharger spinning faster doesn't it become less of an obsticle????? also does the supercharger compress the air further???
besides ccfab i like exotic set ups even if it is more show, it is always fun......
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man, noone here likes the honest truth.
ive already posted about this 4 times and noone listens anyhow.
the charger will kill overall power output my a ton. you can only spin the bastard so fast before you either, roach the charger, or spin it so fast, it generates so much heat and regardless of what you do, iats will be killer.
the veins on the charger are only capable of processing so much cfm. the more you overowrk the bitch, the less peak power youll make. if you plan on rrunning such high boost, get a bigger charger than a m62.
aat that point you wont be able to close your hood.
you want a exotic cavalier setup? i could whip up some one off turbo kit parts that would make everyones head spin, and it would make some real power.
its been said a million times!
you would be more cost efficient going with a well built turbo setup
but do as you please, ccfab is not a douche, he is being honest
he brings up valid points
josh's setup is cool, great, unique
butt i wouldnt do it if i really wanted power
seeing as though i have the charger itself i can tell you i would never consider this route
buttttt have fun and happy boosting kids!
amen. someone with an open mind on this board.
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It's HIS car, it's HIS money. Nobody gives a rates ass what YOU think about HIS setup. NOBODY. Ok, we get it, you're being "honest". The NINE EFFING pages in the last thread completely convinced us of that, so why do you feel the need to start all over again? Go play with your Hondas and for the love of christ stay away from here.
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^maybe because hes trying to prevent a real eye opener when sinrocker finds out he isn't gonna make much of anything for power and spend a million bucks on it.
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idk why he doesnt think its worth it....... supercharger increases displacement which in a way would give you quicker spool out of a larger turbo. I do believe the twincharge set up works and does it well. Otherwise why would other people be doing it with other cars. Ive seen miatas, subies, HONDAS, and may other small motor cars.
sinrocker good luck with the project and I cant wait to see what kind of power you put down.
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and btw i found a 2.4 with a m62 manifold so if your lucky me and this dude might make some.
Do you have pics of this manifold???
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Jason ( got boost?? ) wrote:Quote:
and btw i found a 2.4 with a m62 manifold so if your lucky me and this dude might make some.
Do you have pics of this manifold???
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So what about the m62 setup? Are you going to be using a M62 and turbo or m45 and turbo? If you really can produce the manifold for the price you were talking about in the last thread, there would be interest in it.
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ccfab wrote:the charger will kill overall power output my a ton. you can only spin the bastard so fast before you either, roach the charger, or spin it so fast, it generates so much heat and regardless of what you do, iats will be killer.
the veins on the charger are only capable of processing so much cfm. the more you overowrk the bitch, the less peak power youll make. if you plan on rrunning such high boost, get a bigger charger than a m62.
I don't get what this has to do with anything.
Having the turbo won't make the supercharger spin any faster. In fact, Josh has his set up to spin slower than stock.
The supercharger will take whatever air goes into the inlet side of it and push it into the intake manifold, further compressing it. It's not like a turbo which is effectively "squishing" the air to compress it and then sending it out the other side. It's simply pushing it into a smaller space while not allowing any other way out.
It's basically acting as an amplifier for the turbo in a way. The real value is in the boost it's giving right off the bat before the turbo spools, both giving power and getting the turbo spooled quicker.
Z Speed Cavi wrote:idk why he doesnt think its worth it....... supercharger increases displacement which in a way would give you quicker spool out of a larger turbo. I do believe the twincharge set up works and does it well. Otherwise why would other people be doing it with other cars. Ive seen miatas, subies, HONDAS, and may other small motor cars.
sinrocker good luck with the project and I cant wait to see what kind of power you put down.
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Shifted wrote:Z Speed Cavi wrote:idk why he doesnt think its worth it....... supercharger increases displacement which in a way would give you quicker spool out of a larger turbo. I do believe the twincharge set up works and does it well. Otherwise why would other people be doing it with other cars. Ive seen miatas, subies, HONDAS, and may other small motor cars.
sinrocker good luck with the project and I cant wait to see what kind of power you put down.
Please remind me to slap you for saying that later, or I will direct Brian to do it for me...
Dont worry i owe him a couple!
If your looking to make 20 psi sell the supercharger and use the funds to buy a garrett GT30R series turbo.
I don't understand why people think twin charging is a good idea. Look at the GTP guys they eliminate the snout and rotors and use their chargers as an intake plenum when they go turbo. I wonder why
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I too agree with ccfab.
As much as he come across as an ass he is right. If you want to make serious power this is not the way to go. You want to make power put the super charger befor the turbo not after. Or if you want the exotic aspect go twin turbo one small one large. Either way HP vs $ ratio this is not smart at all.
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when ccfab gets banned can we make his sig say im a retard and now im permabanned, like spotabees ?
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what it you did a twin turbo set-up? small one for "kick off the line and a bigger one for the high end?
okay my other sugestion would be to make an manifold that has like 8 runners. four for the supercharger and four for the turbo and make it in a "L" shape so its not getting bottlenecked. or build one off the stock SC to have one big opening in it for the turbo chage pipe.
what do you think? its different and unique
SPDDMON wrote:Look at the GTP guys they eliminate the snout and rotors and use their chargers as an intake plenum when they go turbo. I wonder why .
actually you'd be wrong... one of the top 3 fastest w-body's is twin charged...
