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ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:55 AM
I've been reading up alot on this subject and I was wondering if anyone on here has this done?
If I can come up with the money I think I'm going to be investing in this.



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch

Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:54 PM
Do your IAT's get that hot while driving, or what is the motive behind the swap?



HP Tuners | Garrett T3/T04B | 2.5" Charge Pipes | 2.5" Downpipe | 650 Injectors | HO Manifold | Addco front/rear | Motor Mounts | HKS SSQV | Spec stage 3 | AEM UEGO Wideband | Team Green LSD | FMIC | 2.3 cams | 2.3 oil pump swap | 280WHP | Now ECOTECED

Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:11 PM
I don't have an AIT sensor, but I want to set it up so I can run the water through an icebox at the track and get the temp below ambient for more power. Basically I need to shave off 4 tenths of a second in the 1/4 mile. I already have a new exhaust(3"), and I'm trying to think of what else can be done...

I am determined to have a faster car than my friends modded LS1 camaro.



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:49 PM
well hopefully you can hit your goal. I know on the 2000-2002 PCM with an IAT sensor installed the computer will add more timing and potentially can net more horsepower.. just a thought. But yes the colder you get the air the better you will be.

I have thought of trying frozen water\meth injection to get the temp ice cold.


HP Tuners | Garrett T3/T04B | 2.5" Charge Pipes | 2.5" Downpipe | 650 Injectors | HO Manifold | Addco front/rear | Motor Mounts | HKS SSQV | Spec stage 3 | AEM UEGO Wideband | Team Green LSD | FMIC | 2.3 cams | 2.3 oil pump swap | 280WHP | Now ECOTECED

Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Monday, July 02, 2007 6:58 AM
I got it on my Balt

other options are methanol injection or nitrous



1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85





Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Monday, July 02, 2007 3:42 PM
I just bought one so this will be something I am going to be doing in the near future. I'll get an AIT sensor too and document all the results. all I need is a pump, some lines or hose, and a reservoir. It will be removable so I can use it for the track and switch back to the Air-Air setup for daily driving.

So I could be the first to do this on a Cavalier???



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Monday, July 02, 2007 11:00 PM
have you possibly thought about, retuning and adding some more boost instead?


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:08 AM
retuning...no... I'm running the Gm Reflash. There is no retuning...lol It sucks. but I can't complain it has been running reliably now for like a month. I guess I could just up the boost a little, but it kind of scares me...lol

Besides it is does this weird thing where as soon as I punch it it jumps up to almost 10 psi then slowly comes down to 7.5-8 psi and stays there... I'm not entirely sure why it does that... So I'm afraid that if I increase the boost to 10 psi it might jump up to 12... see what I mean?

Either way I'm going to try this new intercooler out anyway.



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:16 AM
1) why can't you retune?? I have the GM s/c reflash, I sure as hell retune.

2) your wastegate is too small which is why you are having boost spikes.

3)by cooling the air more, you air making the air more dense... sounds simular to more boost,.. keep in mind, to the rods below 250hp is still 250hp.





HP Tuners | Garrett T3/T04B | 2.5" Charge Pipes | 2.5" Downpipe | 650 Injectors | HO Manifold | Addco front/rear | Motor Mounts | HKS SSQV | Spec stage 3 | AEM UEGO Wideband | Team Green LSD | FMIC | 2.3 cams | 2.3 oil pump swap | 280WHP | Now ECOTECED

Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:28 AM
If the wastegate is too small then If I run more boost I shouldn't se anymore spikes. Correct?

And how would I retune anything other than fuel pressure?



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:52 AM
www.hptuners.com to tune

you need to port the wastegate. I had that issue too, I went from a 19mm gate to a 28mm gate, and now it is perfect. You just need to remove the exhaust housing (turbo optional) and port it with a dremel from k-mart, wal-mart, C-tire, NAPA, or wherever.. always good times.


HP Tuners | Garrett T3/T04B | 2.5" Charge Pipes | 2.5" Downpipe | 650 Injectors | HO Manifold | Addco front/rear | Motor Mounts | HKS SSQV | Spec stage 3 | AEM UEGO Wideband | Team Green LSD | FMIC | 2.3 cams | 2.3 oil pump swap | 280WHP | Now ECOTECED


Re: ANYbody have water/air intercooler???
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:19 PM
He has an eco....the gm flash for the eco's cant be tuned via HPTuner.
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